Ignorance doesn’t mix with AK47s

The Oath Keepers are on their way to Kentucky to protect Kim Davis from United States District Court Judge David Bunning. When he released her from jail on Tuesday, he ordered her not to interfere with her deputy clerks issuing marriage licenses to same sex couples. She said she would not do anything that would violate her conscience. She would be in compliance with his order if she does not do anything when a deputy clerk issues a marriage license to a same sex couple. Only she knows whether standing by and not doing anything, if a deputy clerk issues a license, would violate her conscience and cause her to act.

Stewart Rhodes, the founder of Oath Keepers, explains why he believes his group of armed former cops and military veterans should go to Rowan County to protect her. Raw Story reports,

In a press release published on their website, the group says they have been in contact with Davis’ attorney, Mat Staver, and are acting because Judge David Bunning “grossly overstepped his bounds and violated Mrs Davis’ due process rights, and in particular her right to a jury trial.”

Rhodes does not know what he is talking about. Davis did not have a right to a jury trial or any sort of trial because he held her in contempt for refusing to comply with his order to issue marriage licenses. She was accorded due process of law because she was given an opportunity to explain why she refused to issue the licenses pursuant to Obergefell v. Hodges and she was permitted to appeal his decision rejecting her argument to the Sixth Circuit and to the United States Supreme Court. After she lost those appeals and still refused to issue the licenses, he ordered her to show cause why he should not hold her in contempt of court. He held her in contempt when she presented the same lame losing argument. Freedom of religion is not a license for an elected official to discriminate against others in violation of their Fourteenth Amendment right to equal protection of the laws.

He ordered her to jail until she or her deputy clerks issued the marriage licenses that the plaintiff couples had requested. He released her after those licenses were issued.

This situation is not complicated. If another same-sex couple applies for a marriage license and she refuses to permit her deputy clerks to issue them a license, she can reasonably expect Judge Bunning will again order her to appear in court to show cause why he should not hold her in contempt. If she offers the same lame excuse, he will order her back to jail until the license is issued. That is the nature of civil contempt and that is why judges and lawyers say that the person held in contempt has the key to the jailhouse door.

Rhodes and company want to ride to her rescue with AK47s and recreate a Bundy ranch standoff scenario. They would be better served if they put down their guns and read up on civil contempt.

20 Responses to Ignorance doesn’t mix with AK47s

  1. ed nelson says:

    Naw… nobody is going to get that stupid joke… (” Etc.etc. etc.” Yul Btenner in ‘the King and I”, Bald headed man… Yule Brenner…. he was a Russian, and a real guy too.

  2. ed nelson says:

    Jeesus Fred….! these weopons that they have today… Not to speak of what they got…. on the… ”drawing board”!

    Now we had a phoney war about some other little ”country” who might have had some…. ”WoMDestruction” (what they didn’t have)…. (Might have liked to have had, just like our other ‘ good pals’, etc. etc. etc., ( hey I need a haircut…. Joke … “)

  3. Trained Observer says:

    Off Topic: Any thoughts on Michael Dunn’s appeal that finally got filed last month after a few extensions? In the 200-page doc, he’s whining that the second trial should have been somewhere other than Duval. … Doubt that Mars or the Moon would have helped him.

    • Malisha says:

      Extensions for the filing of notice of appeal? I have never heard of such a thing.

      Maybe it was just extension for filing the brief?

      Of course he’s whining about his second trial…he didn’t like the first one, either. He thought he should be able to whitesplain what happened and not be questioned, period.

    • There has been a trend recently in big cases to deny pretrial motions for a change of venue on the ground that voir dire should result in revealing juror prejudice or bias that is sufficient to eliminate problem jurors. Stealth jurors willing to lie to conceal their agenda are a major problem with that approach and sooner or later I think we’ll see a case reversed for failing to grant the motion. I think the Boston Marathon bomber case is a good candidate for reversal for at least a new penalty phase because every juror was, in a sense, a victim of the bombings.

      I think the Dunn case is less likely to be reversed because the evidence of guilt was so overwhelming.

    • ed nelson says:

      Hi there Goldie! I tangled with you over at FDL… You don’t like my views…. well I don’t hold with phoney liberal/neoLiberal/ etc… my old friends were real Communists… no shit!

  4. Malisha says:

    Unfortunately, Ignorance often does mix with AK47s and that is why we have so many wars, so many young people with their limbs blown away, so many bereaved and impoverished…

  5. Willful ignorance is one of the new contemporary seven deadly sins. Misuse of religion is another!

  6. ed nelson says:

    oh boy, another nice steak got… carbonized!

  7. Disappointed says:

    imo the oath keepers should be cautious who they point their gun at. I feared for my life seems to work for shooting someone. Justified or not. Kim should do her job or resign. She is paid by the ppl who want the license. The tax payer.

  8. racerrodig says:

    The Oath Keepers are a joke in my opinion. Clearly this is a group of misinformed, ignorant 2nd Amendment NutZZ who are out LOOKING to start a gunfight for no legitimate (is there ever) reason.

    Hell………one of them shot himself a month ago or so defending some BS thing or other.

    In fact, one can only be a member if you were military or LE. Gee….seems like discrimination to me.

    Hmmmmmmmm……are there any AA members or is that part of their membership rules as well.

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