#MH370 Update: More underwater pings detected during Sunday search

A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777

Have the searchers located the black boxes?

Sunday, April 6, 2014

Good morning:

I have two new facts to report about the search for MH370.

(1) Angus Houston, the chief coordinator for the Australian Joint Agency Coordination Centre has confirmed that another vessel detected pings underwater during the Sunday search. Astro Awani reports:

PERTH: Another pulse signal was detected in the southern Indian Ocean today by Australian Defence Vessel (ADV) Ocean Shield while searching for the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370.

Earlier a Chinese ship, Haixun 01, detected two short pulse signals also known as acoustic signal 36 hours ago on Friday and in the afternoon on Saturday.

[The two locations where the Chinese ship detected the pings are 1.2 miles apart]

Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) chief coordinator, Angus Houston said up till now there was no verification whether to discount or to confirm the finding as the investigation was ongoing.

“HMS Echo is on its way to the Haixun 01 ship area while Ocean Shield is investigating the signal using underwater equipment,” he told a press conference here today.

He said the location between Haixun 01 and Ocean Shield is about 300 nautical miles.

Houston described the Ocean Shield as the best ship for the task as it was equipped with towed pinger and remotely operated underwater vehicle.

He, however, cautioned the verification of the signals could take several days and pointed out that search could be painstaking as the depth of the ocean in the area was about 4.5 km as well as other challenges.

(2) Malaysian officials are claiming that the flight skirted the limits of radar detection before turning south into the Indian Ocean. Astro Awani reports:

KUALA LUMPUR: The missing MH370 is believed to have flown around the Indonesia airspace on its way to the southern Indian Ocean, a senior Malaysian government official told CNN, Sunday.

The plane is believed to have skirted the Indonesian airspace to avoid radar detection, CNN reported.

This conclusion was drawn after looking at radar data from neighbouring countries, the official was quoted.

You are up to date.

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15 Responses to #MH370 Update: More underwater pings detected during Sunday search

  1. colin black says:

    No Mayday after the sign of no contact nadda an as the tranponders an other tracking locaters were switched of.

    We must assume either the Pilots or Pilot took control of cockpit an plane for neferous or personal reasons.

    In wich case the last thing he would want or whom ever comandeered the plane .

    Would be to issue an alert via MAYDAY or S O S If a non Pilot was in control.

    Whomever took time to make the plane invisable alter course an apparently even evade cetain airspace wher the planes presence may be detected.

    I have a theory its a bit far out but stay with me.

    They will find wreckage an black/orange boxes even the fussalage an tail of the missing plane.

    But its all faked for our miss direction .

    The real Flight crashed on a small invisible Island wich is not only invisible but travels through space and time.

    Its Inhabited by a mysterous Smoke Monster and some strange Other types of People.

    At the momment the passenger of the Missing Flight are as puzzled as us as to where the fuck they are.

  2. volgaknight says:

    As a retired pilot I have one question that is, simply, inexplicable. And, I fully understand that each case is different, and, unique. Yet, having studied many, many crashes, and, drawing on my personal experience, I am surprised, and, dismayed, that my question, let alone the answer, has not been brought up for discussion by the countless pundits and experts covering this tragedy. (If it has and I missed it, I apologize.)

    The question is, “why no “Mayday?”

    Even in the most dire circumstance, and, with very little time to do anything but fly the plane, squawking “Mayday” is so fundamental, so automatic, and, so effortless that its absence here stands out like a big, sore thumb.

    I’m sure if you watch, and, listen to the crashes at You Tube, even fatal crashes, you’ll find the pilot sending “Mayday” warnings…. even right up to the moment of impact. You have to understand that the relationship between a pilot and his controller is so symbiotic its as if two become one to fly the plane. And, that bond becomes even closer during emergencies. Check it out; you’ll find that during wartime and enemy gunfire, the pilot and controller are in constant, continuous contact. Same with civilian pilots, and, the more chaotic the situation is in the cockpit, the tighter, and, louder the chatter between the distressed pilot and his controller.

    Also, you have to understand that by the time that impact is imminent, the pilot has done everything he knows how to do to try and save the plane, and himself. It’s in those last few seconds that the pilot, having run out of options, is, frantically, and futilely, grasping at the last straws/ ideas (from the controller) in hopes of something from him to save the day. In most cases, the last transmission is, “Mayday, we’re going down.”

    And, yet, on MH370….nothing.

    • I have been asking the same question.

    • gblock says:

      I have thought about this a bit. To me, the lack of any kind of distress call indicating a problem suggests a deliberate act of some kind, either by the captain or by a hijacker who forbade the crew to issue a distress call or report of a problem.

    • towerflower says:

      Volga, I’m an Air Traffic Controller. 2 things, one is that the radios might have also been disabled by whatever event that also took out the transponder and ACARS. They might have tried to make a mayday call but did not realize the radios were out of commission.

      Next, I have worked several aircraft that never got out a mayday call during an emergency. It’s not that unusual. The Air France jet also did not transmit a mayday call before their crash, they were too busy working the problem in saving the plane.

  3. dianetrotter says:

    This morning pundits felt like China was holding back on their info.

  4. colin black says:

    Id try an get a helicopter to fly the nearest thing to the sonar detecting devise that trails behind the Ocean Sheild Ship …

    Get it to the ship nearest the second detected pings an deploy it as they have only a few days at most before the batterys fail.

    I cant beleive in this day of massive sea bottom drilling an pipe laying that the Ocean Sheild has the only sonar tyrailing devise.

    If to heavy or out of range for a helicopter get a military transport craft to parachute the devise to a location near a ship in the area.

    An if nessesery parachute a couple of techs whom no how to operate it as well.

  5. The Ocean Shield has the best equipment to detect the black boxes because it has the pinger locator that it can tow at depths of up to 20,000 feet and a remotely operated sub that it can use to use to look for wreckage on the bottom.

    Problem is the Ocean Shield is limited to cruising at 1-6 knots while towing the pinger and it’s 300 nautical miles from the location where the Chinese vessel detected pings on Friday and Saturday.

    With time running out on the black box batteries, does it remain where it is and continue to investigate the pings it detected yesterday or does it abandon that effort, pull up the pinger and head to the other area?

    Angus Houston ordered the Ocean Shield to continue searching where it is and sent the Echo, which has lots of electronic detection devices on board, to search the area where the Chinese ship detected the pings.

    That makes sense to me.

    • Malisha says:

      Whose radar is this location “on”?

      • Indonesian radar in Banda Aceh Province in Indonesia.

        The Melbourne Herald Sun is reporting:

        THE missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 may have flown around Indonesian airspace on the night it disappeared, in what may have been a deliberate attempt to avoid radar detection.

        CNN reported a senior Malaysian government source saying that the missing jet made the detour after it had left the range of Malaysian military radar.

        The latest details emerged as new satellite calculations put the likely location of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 in the same spot where Chinese patrol vessel Haixun 01 detected sounds coming from about 4,500m underwater on two consecutive days.

  6. Although the Chinese ship detected signals at 2 locations only 1.2 miles apart on Friday and Saturday, the Ocean Shield picked up a signal 300 nautical miles away on Sunday.

    Apparently, no one picked up a signal on Sunday in the area where the Chinese ship picked up signals on Friday and Saturday.

    Frustrating.

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