Michael Dunn Trial Day 2

Friday, February 7, 2014

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195 Responses to Michael Dunn Trial Day 2

  1. renahv says:

    Fred,

    I made a donation the other day but havent received any acknowledgement. True, it was unfortuneately only a small amount this time, but you usually never fail to let me know youve gotten it.

    Im worried that you havent?

  2. kllypyn says:

    I haven’t been following the trial but it looks like they are tryi9ng to thugify the victim.It worked so well for murderman.

  3. neveragain says:

    Lots of comments

  4. Post by Crane-Station:

    Comic relief. Dr. Reasons – The Bark

  5. Trained Observer says:

    Chris Le Blanc: I went to court, showed by driver’s license and was told “to have a nice day.”

    So much for defense efforts to paint Chris Le Blanc some sort of a serial bank robber with an ominous warrant out for his arrest.

    Nice job by Guy in diffusing that bit of distraction.

    • Malisha says:

      Wish he had done half that well with the old lady in the bathrobe in the Fogen trial.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Thank goodness. That people paint these kids as thugs is horrendous.

      Thanks for all the comments everyone. I don’t want to take the time to watch the hearings, but I get a nice sense of what’s going on from skimming throught comments.

      Put that Dunnster back in his cell and keep him there, already! What a dreadful act.

  6. Court will be in session tomorrow at the jury’s request.

    Full day 9-5 pm EDT

  7. fauxmccoy says:

    Strolls not doing himself any favors by being overly aggressive with innocent bystanders. Mr Lee blanc is the second witness so far to show a sense of exasperation with strolls (the other being the gas station manager). This is something I would definitely notice as a juror.

    Also, at the risk of sounding like a corporate shill, the chromecast gadget for 35 bucks is a great deal. I am streaming video from my Mac to my TV while able to keep tabs on this blog and twitter on a tablet.

    • towerflower says:

      I agree, I couldn’t believe he was making a big deal of his “court appearance” like he was a criminal and should not be trusted…..all it was about was not having a driver’s license on him and when he finally got to court and showed it, the charge was dismissed…..happens all the time in Florida.

  8. Lordyy! did Christopher Le Blanc administer a robust thumping to the defense.

  9. Christopher LeBlanc

    Dinner at the Loop.

    Recalls two sets of shots but not how many.

    He heard the SUV’s tires squealing and it stopped short of his sister’s car.

    The passenger was talking on a cell phone.

    The driver looked in the back.

    He told the 911 operator that it looked like the driver might have been placing or concealing something in the back but admits that he really doesn’t know what the guy was doing.

    The pulled up right by us.

    BTW, pulling up and stopping in front of two witnesses to get rid of a shotgun in plain view is a ridiculous claim.

    He could see both sides of the SUV.He’s killing Strolla.

  10. Boyd says:

    Strolla is awful, This guy Leblanc should not have to explain his situation.

  11. Lynn says:

    I have been to this gas station many times. The in and out of this place is not easy. If you are on Baymeadows you have to pull a u-turn to go in. You have to go NB on Southside Blvd because it’s a divided median, you can’t turn right. Google maps shows the parking lot in as much detail as their pictures in the courtroom. The distance from the gate parking spaces to where this lady marked the suv as stopping is around 256ft. Not quite a football field but everyone could be off a few feet. What I do know with the way this parking lot/plaza is designed and given the fact that this witness says they were only out of the car 60 seconds or so, is that the passenger whom Strolla points out was not in her sight, would have had to speed run to get to a dumpster and back in that time or would have to have a hell of an arm to toss a shotgun onto a roof seeing as how they were on the aisle furthest away from the stores/restaurants.

  12. We be back
    Did you know that SUV was struck by 9 bullets?

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Here is a chance for her brother to reinforce it and Guy to bring it home.

    • Lynn says:

      Media keeps using 8 as a number, but I believe 10 were fired and 9 struck. 3 shots fired and hit Jordan’s door. 4 shots fired with 3 hitting passenger front door. 3 fired and 2 hit rear lights and 1 hit back side window.

  13. Redirect by Guy.

    Best way to handle this situation is to lead her to say that she was paying close attention to the men because she was afraid and looking for any sign of a weapon and didn’t see one.

    Short recess to argue about Guy’s follow-up question to Strolla’s improper question about knowing what was going on the driver’s mind.

    That was an improper question because it called for speculation and John Guy doesn’t need to go there because he can get what he needs by asking her about her fear and what it motivated her to do (i.e., pay attention).

    Short recess while they sort it out.

  14. Boyd says:

    I like how the lawyers can impeach your testimony asking you trivial questions on what you did, say, then they have to have a break to check what a lawyer said 5 minutes ago.

  15. He does a decent job of getting her to admit that her attention was not 100% on the SUV and she could not see what the front seat passenger was doing, other than she saw him standing there.

    • J4TMinATL says:

      I agree Prof. She’s clear that she saw the driver with a cell phone in his hand and that he was leaning in with the door open but says they were calm…not screaming.

    • Boyd says:

      she saw the car backup to the gas station, no big shotgun laying on the ground. she would have seen something flying out. Then this guy starts throwing dumpsters and bushes in it , she never testified about dumpsters and bushes. .

      I think what Dunn saw was a cell phone in the kid’s hand. I think Dunn knew exactly what was in his hand because this argument went on for awhile Dunn ran away and never reported it because he had no explanation for the cops. As I recall the GF told Police he never mentioned a shotgun to her

      • towerflower says:

        Leeland testified that Jordan didn’t have anything in his hands. He was asked about the movements of Jordan’s arms. He said Jordan’s left arm/hand were on the seat back and he was pointing his right hand at Dunn. He was asked if he made a shape of a gun with his hand and he said no…..just pointing a finger.

  16. Strolla’s blessing to people who sneeze is not endearing. There’s no genuine feeling behind it.

  17. colin black says:

    shook her up pretty good?

    NO UGLY BAD SHOOK UP

    No good was caused by your clients actions.

  18. Alyssa Le Blanc

    She’s a kindergarten teacher.

    She went to dinner with her roommate and her brother and 2-year-pld nephew. She picked up her brother and nephew.

    Roommate drove separately.

    After dinner at a restaurant, her roommate got into her truck and left.

    Then she heard gunshots.

    She saw the red SUV speeding toward her, but stopped in the middle of the parking lane.

    Saw the driver and front seat passenger get out.

    The driver wallked toward the back talking on his cell phone and opened the tailgate and look into the back area,

    The front seat passenger just stood outside the door.

    The 2 males were out of the SUV for only about a minute.

    After they got in, the driver backed up to the Gate.

    Her brother put the 2-year-old in the child seat. Then she got into her car and drove home.

    She called 911 as they left the plaza and informed them about what she saw. A detective followed up and interviewed her.

    Now, Guy is going to play her 911 call for the jury.

    She heard the Duraqngo “speeding-up and tires squealing.”

  19. Boyd says:

    Supposed to be working , but have to see how Strolla wiggles out of LeBlanc’s testimony

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Very important witness to this case because she can reinforce that there was no gun.

      Here he goes…..

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Trying to establish that she really couldn’t have possibly saw anything. Even tried to get her to say the passenger (Thompson) opened the back gate possibly. And say that Tommie was reaching in, she corrects him and says leaning.

      Asks her about the dumpsters, bushes….twice……which are no where near the Durango.

  20. J4TMinATL says:

    Awww that caller that I asked about is on the stand, Rod. Must be relevant.

    • roderick2012 says:

      Is this person testifying for the defense or the State?

      Did this person see the young men toss a gun or just walking around?

      It doesn’t sound like a big deal.

  21. Strolla’s cross was not very effective, I think.

    Guy’s redirect is powerful. He nailed the song cheap-shot

  22. He was concerned about his probation which is probably why he didn’t want to call 911.

    He wanted to alert others to do so and others did so..

  23. Trained Observer says:

    Doubt jurors will buy the immediate profit motive,accusation when clearly it was an emotional tribute done in a manner the witness was capable of rendering.

    As this murdering jerk of a defendant sits there on his ass, how can jurors not be acutely aware that his kneejerk spray of bullets might easily have killed any of these three articulate kids on the witness stand?

  24. colin black says:

    He was In friggin SHOCK U TWAT A minute can take a second an vice verca.

  25. Strolla with a low blow when he accused him of attempting to profit from a song he wrote and performed titled, “Jordan Davis.”

  26. Girlp says:

    You don’t have to know someone forever to call them a friend (or homeboy).

  27. Girlp says:

    A person does not alway’s get in trouble for minor violations of probation….

  28. Strolla’s cross

    The sidebar probably was about him watching part pf yesterday’s trial.

  29. First went to the Towne Center and Jordan stopped into Urban Outfitters shere she worked.

    Then they decided to go the Avenues Shopping Center, but stopped at the Gate to use the bathroom and purchase cigarettes and gum.

    As he walked back to the car, he noticed the black sedan park close enough to his Durango that someone getting out of the Durango would hit the black sedan with the door.

    He did a lttle dance and then got into his car. Leeland told him to drive away.

    He looked over and saw Dunn shooting the gun.

    I seen Michael Dunn’s mouth move and the gun come up.

    He started the engine, slammed it into reverse, Then he pulled away and around the side of the store.

    He stopped in the parking lot and called out everyon’es name. Jordan did not respond.

    He looked back and saw Leeland cradling Jordan’s head and heard Jordan gasping for air.

    He got out and walked around the Durango to check it out. He saw multiple bullet holes in the side of his Durango.

    He got back into his Durango and backed up to the gas station to seek help.

    He checked Jordan for a pulse but he didn’t have one.

    He called 911 and waited to give a statement.

    He didn’t get into any trouble with his probation officer and successfully completed it. It was a third degree felony.

    No one rewarded him for his testimony

  30. Boyd says:

    People need to be educated on a ‘thug’. Dunn calls these kids thugs. These kids are miles away from ‘thugs’. I got a cousin who I would call a thug. He’s in jail for practically life for drug dealing. Think of the character Denzel Washington played in Training day, that’s him to a tee. That’ a thug! ole Dunn would never go to my cousin Wayne and tell him to turn down the music.

  31. Boyd says:

    why are the key witnesses testifying so early in the trial? The jurors will forget their testimony. Who remembers episode 1 of a TV show.

    Like Zimmerman the trial ended with witnesses who were not there.
    I think that gives their testimnoy more weight

  32. colin black says:

    If blatantly guilty like foggen or dunn.

    I would demand a 6 person jury .

    Its less dificult to influence 5 people or bend them to your will if stealth is your agenda.

    Than to control another 11 peoples opinion an moral fibre.

    .

    • roderick2012 says:

      Its less dificult to influence 5 people or bend them to your will if stealth is your agenda.

      It’s also more difficult to get a unanimous verdict with twelve jurors than it is six.

  33. We’re back on the record.

    Oops! Looks like Corey was not present when he came out on the bench. So, he exited stage right.

    Now that she’s back, we’ll probably get going.

  34. He has a right to a 12 person jury because he is charged with murder 1.

    Corey decided not to seek the death penalty, but he stll gets a 12 person jury because of the charge.

  35. colin black says:

    I thought non capital cases in Florida required only 6 jurours so why 12?

    • fauxmccoy says:

      colin – that is my understanding, but i believe in 1st degree murder cases that the defendant can request a 12 member jury. i should go back and check my notes though … my mind resembling more of a steel sieve than trap these days :/

  36. colin black says:

    Are they in chambers without the accused?

    • Just a sidebar about the next witness. John Guy wants to put something on the record out of the presence of the jury. The court reporter is taking everything down.

      I have no idea what the issue is, but events like this are not unusual.

      If it involves a legal issue, the judge will tale a recess.

      • Aha! That is precisely what he did.

        If Tommy Stornes is the next witness, the issue may be about the admissibility of his prior record or some portion of it.

        Remember, he was supposedly on felony probation with a 7 pm curfew the night of the shooting.

        • J4TMinATL says:

          Which has no relevance. That’s what Dunn supporters like to throw around to further “thugify” the victims.

        • roderick2012 says:

          Was it explained that it was for theft and not for a violent crime?

          • towerflower says:

            Only said that it was a 3rd degree felony, no mention as to the charge, they went into his probation violation (for being out past his 7pm curfew) and how they continued it.

  37. Strolla is pretty good at the confrontational bully style and he knows how to impeach using a prior inconsistent statement,

    But his machine-gun style grates.

    He needs to learn when to go soft and he needs to learn the art of pacing.

    I thought his cross of Jordan’s devastated friend was like chalk rubbed the wrong way on a blackboard.

    • Boyd says:

      I would not remember little silly details when someone’s shooting at me.

      got out the car, walked around, what did he say, how much time before you called 9-11. please! I can’t wait to hear him defend his client going home to walk the dog after shooting 8 shots at people, not calling 911, then of course telling police “we were about to call you” . Let’s see how long he spends doting over that.

      • Lynn says:

        These boys were shot at 10x, speed away, got out (around 60 seconds according to witnesses), came back, and instantly called 911…but that wasn’t quick enough for this defense lawyer. One the other hand, his client waits how many minutes before calling 911??? Um, doesn’t call. Why wasn’t mentioned on redirect?

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Strolla arguing definition of “homeboy” and YouTube video…

    • Malisha says:

      Exactly. PLUS he acted like he was allowed to assume that the witness was a thug. Treating these three survivors like thugs (because that’s what Dunn says they are) is not a good defense strategy at ALL!

  38. Jordan Davis could not get out of the Durango or roll the window down because of the child locks.

    • Boyd says:

      yes I caught that.

    • towerflower says:

      I have one question about the child locks. Every vehicle I’ve owned and I haven’t owned a doge or a Durango….the door locks were on the inside of the door—you have to open the door and flip a switch on the door panel to prevent them from opening the door from the inside. The control panel to the side of the driver, controls the windows and can prevent a child from opening a window, but in every vehicle I’ve owned (mazda, acura, buick, Honda) the panel did not have a child lock for the doors with the window controls.

      Can someone else confirm this?

      • J4TMinATL says:

        That is correct. One has to open back doors and manually move the lever to do it. On windows, the driver control panel can lock other passengers from rolling down windows.

        • towerflower says:

          Thanks, they just seemed to focus on the driver’s side controls for the windows and I’ve never seen anyone mention if the locks were or were not engaged on the door panels.

  39. Leeland Brunson is still devastated by what happened.

  40. Boyd says:

    These are just kids, This Dunn is a bully. Thugs my a$$! A thug to me looks like the biker gang from the sons of anarchy. You think ole Dunn would tell them to turn the music down? Yeah! He’s a big 6-4 pussy, picking on teenagers.

  41. Boyd says:

    I hope this guy can get the death penalty

    • fauxmccoy says:

      @boyd — while i agree that dunn is burnt toast because of the mountains of evidence against him as well as the witnesses to the event, this is not a capital case so no DP.

    • roderick2012 says:

      The death penalty is not on the table but it should be.

  42. colin black says:

    Wish they had let loose durango style on Dunnns ass

  43. J4TMinATL says:

    I think it will boil down to whether the jury can believe that Dunn started shooting for no reason and why. Since there is and was no gun found and no one saw one, doesn’t it become a question of why would he start shooting for no apparent reason when they don’t have a weapon?

    I don’t need the answer but I think the jury could have trouble with that. I don’t think Dunn leaving the scene and not calling the police will play a role in their decision.

    What do y’all think? Will the jury struggle with that?

    • fauxmccoy says:

      as a juror, i know i would have a huge problem buying ‘self defense’ if the shooter/defendant flees the scene, orders a pizza like nothing out of the ordinary is going on and then drives several hours to get to my own home — all the while, never contacting authorities. but that’s me. who knows how that shit will fly for this jury.

    • roderick2012 says:

      “I don’t think Dunn leaving the scene and not calling the police will play a role in their decision.”

      You can’t be serious.

      Leaving the scene made him look as if he was the one who had done something wrong.

      Then he decided NOT to contact the police, but the police tracked him don’t. Another sign of guilt or that he didn’t care if he had injured anyone–it was just some sick game or fantasy for him.

      I believe that most of the jury members wonder why Dunn didn’t just go inside the store if he felt threatened and called the police.

      • J4TMinATL says:

        Yes I’m serious, I am not confident that the jury will consider it or look at it as a sign of guilt when asking themselves was Dunn in fear for his life and therefore justified in shooting at the Durango…especially if Dunn doesn’t take the stand.

        Strolla has established that Davis cussed at Dunn and Davis tried to exit the vehicle although Leland (Davis’ best friend) only said he put his hand on the handle. This whole confrontation thing again…

        • Eric says:

          Trying to open a door is not the same as opening the door. Dunn said the door opened

          • J4TMinATL says:

            That’s why I said above…., “Although Leland (Davis’ best friend) only said he put his hand on the handle.”

            Leland just established that the child locks were engaged on both the doors and windows on cross. Thompson only established the windows.

            Strolla now can ask why would Jordan try to get out of the vehicle during the confrontation (not that it matters in deciding Dunn’s guilt).

        • roderick2012 says:

          But who started it and why?

          Davis was only responding to some idiot who thought it was appropriate to bitch about someone playing loud music in a public parking lot yet the first and only response from Dunn was to go back to his car and pull his gun from the glove box?

          Davis’ leaving the vehicle wasn’t why Dunn said he was afraid. He stated that it was because he saw a ‘gun’ or a ‘stick’ so that’s a moot point.

          Dunn wasn’t afraid when he initiated the confrontation when he mouthed off to the ‘thugs’ because he knew he had his gun and that’s why it’s premeditated murder- he wanted to escalate the situtation by using deadly force rather than diffuse the situation in a non lethal manner.

          • Eric says:

            If he didn’t have the gun he would not have said one word.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            Dunn hasn’t taken the stand to state any of that.

            There’s nothing wrong with asking someone to turn down music or bitching about it as you stated.

            I’m leaving my emotions out of it. What I do know is: that the truth and what seemed evident, proven and obvious to me and a whole lot of people didn’t convict Fogen….same state, same prosecutors.

          • roderick2012 says:

            J4TMinATL There’s nothing wrong with asking someone to turn down music or bitching about it as you stated.

            Not if the SUV had been on Dunn’s private property, but they weren’t and the fact that Dunn was only going to be there a few minutes while his girlfriend bought some (more) booze makes Dunn look like the substance abusing racist idiot that he is.

            J4TMinATL I’m leaving my emotions out of it. What I do know is: that the truth and what seemed evident, proven and obvious to me and a whole lot of people didn’t convict Fogen….same state, same prosecutors.

            The State threw Piglet’s case. The witnesses were horrible and there were people that the State should have brought in like an MMA expert who could have testified as to how easy it would have been for Piglet to have bridged his body up and thrown Trayvon off him and a physicist to explain that the only way that the bullet holes in the hoodie and the undershirt were aligned was because the same force was acting on both of them so the sagging theory was not correct since there was a soda can inside the hoodie pocket. Also a physicist could have pin pointed where the forced was applied to the undershirt and hoodie and it wasn’t where the soda can was located.

            The State didn’t rip John Goode a new one by presenting his second interview where he changed his story significantly which contradicted his initial statement and courtroom testimony.

            Did you once use the handle ‘unitron’ in a previous incarnation?

          • J4TMinATL says:

            Roderick,

            No it’s not a crime to ask someone to turn down music and it isn’t a crime to tell someone to fuck off.

            Are you even streaming this? Can you direct me to all the evidence in this case? Have you read the 100+ pages of discovery? Where are the discussions and breakdown of said evidence like we had and did every damn day for TM?

            Nope never have. You?

            Carry on.

          • roderick2012 says:

            J4TMinATLNo it’s not a crime to ask someone to turn down music and it isn’t a crime to tell someone to fuck off.

            Who said anything being a crime?

            My point is that its just odd that someone would confront a complete stranger in a public place and ask him to turn down his music.

            One of the witnessed parked AWAY from the SUV because they were playing loud music.

            If Dunn was so upset about the music he could have moved the car, but he was too drunk and beligerant to do so and he used it as an excuse to act an ass.

            When I tell someone to eff off that means that I don’t want anything else to do with that person.

            Dunn should have dealt with it and waited for his girlfriend and everyone could have left in peace.

        • Lynn says:

          So are you saying that you believe the jury WILL accept the fact that Jordan cursed and postured like he was all bad by grabbing a door handle according to Leland, but they WONT even take into consideration that Dunn driving off, going into his hotel, taking his dog out to pee, ordering pizza, eating, falling off to sleep, awakening with his girlfriend telling him he was on the news, and then driving 2 1/2 hrs back home gives a little doubt that the man did not fear for his life???

          • J4TMinATL says:

            I think the jury will consider that Davis and Dunn had a verbal altercation and that Davis tried the door handle. I don’t know about the “posturing” because it hasn’t been referred to in that manner. Personally, I don’t believe Dunn would have been able to see a door trying to be opened…because the windows are tinted.

            If he doesn’t take the stand, the jurors have his video interview on tape and the word of the investigator that interviewed him to prove that he left the scene and ordered pizza later, etc…That can’t be crossed. And does what he did later affect what he did in that moment? Not really. Does him leaving the scene prove he did or did not see a weapon and/or fear for his life in that moment? No it doesn’t. It looks bad yes.

          • roderick2012 says:

            @J4TMinATL

            Telling someone to eff off isn’t any more a verbal confrontation than flipping the bird and it certainly didn’t warrant deadly force.

            As for Jordan attempting to open the door so what? Dunn never knew that until after the fact unless he had x-ray vision.

            That’s like what did Trayvon’s past matter because Piglet didn’t know that on the night he stalked him and murdered him.

            Dunn’s post shooting behavior was that of a sociopath.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            Did I say it did? Stop putting your opinion into my statements. That won’t work with me. Focus on watching the trial.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            @rod can you answer my questions above in the post that starts with Roderick and ends with Carry on?

      • Malisha says:

        Look, if I believe a car full of four thugs has threatened to kill me, and if I have my girlfriend with me and I get threatened with death repeatedly and I see a weapon in this thug-filled car, and I defend myself by shooting at it until it leaves, NUMBER ONE thing I do is call 911. WHY? Because those thugs have my LICENSE PLATE #. They can get another coupla buses fulla thugs to come kill me and my girlfriend at any moment.

        Only if I have chosen to shoot some unarmed kid do I feel safe enough to leave and not even call the police. If ANYTHING happened to scare me — ANYTHING — I call 911 so fast it makes my girlfriend’s head spin; and NOT from wine!

  44. Boyd says:

    This Strolla defense is ridiculous. Booming music, shaking the car. WHO CARES! none of it warrants shooting people. I want to know why Dunn didn’t move the car, turn up his radio, or think about his son being married , instead of letting music drive him crazy in one minute. How does that happen? I can tell you me, I wouldn’t even notice the music.

    • Eric says:

      What’s funny about the defense is, on one had Strolla claims Thompson couldn’t hear what Jordan said because the music was so loud even though Thompson was sitting in front of Jordan. On the other had Strolla is saying the Dunn could hear Jordan in through that loud music while he sat in his own car.

  45. colin black says:

    fauxmccoy says:
    February 7, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    From what I know from a sound tech friend who works for ABC news, body mic for women if more difficult than for men. It generally involves being wired up from the bottom of the skirt. (His least fave task was setting up Barbara Walters with the body mic.). If I were a woman from the prosecution, I would say ‘no’ too. Also, I would not want to risk having a live mic when talking to colleagues. Just something to consider.

    @I wouldnt want a live mike near my butt either.!

  46. fauxmccoy says:

    fred — xena is unable to post, think you can help her out?

  47. Cross by Strolla

    His windshield was blown out.

    The music was so loud he could not hear what Tommy and Jordan were saying.

    Jordan said, “Fuck that nigger” about Dunn.

    The night of the shooting was only the second time he hunk out with Tommy, Leland and Jordan.

    Tommy is the only one with a vehicle and he knew Tommy was on felony probation and had 7 pm curfew.

    Tommy didn’t realize that Jordan and Dunn were having a fight until he got into the care.

    If he wasn’t aiming the gun, he would have fired at me. He fired at Jordan. He had to look back to shoot him.

    As soon as they got back to the gas station, he called 911 and Tommy got out and asked a lady to call 911.

    He spent about 5 minutes outside with the cops before they placed all of the witnesses inside the gas station.

    He waited about an hour for the detective to show up. Interview lasted about 15 minutes. He filled out a written statement.

    Evidently, his front window wasn’t shattered.

    Redirect by John Guy

    He didn’t see a weapon of any kind in the Durango

    Dunn was looking at Jordan when he fired the shots.

    The only thing Guy said to him was “Tell the truth.”

    Lunch recess. Resume at 1 pm EDT.

  48. J4TMinATL says:

    Strolla is making my head spin.

    • Lynn says:

      He’s trying to make this guy’s head spin but it’s not working. He is paying attention and calling him out on his inconsistencies. He said you didn’t hear anything Dunn said and he said no. Strolla had to change it to everything. Yes, I didn’t hear everything, but I heard some things.
      Then he tried to make us believe Dunn was only talking to a SUV with no idea who was in it, but this guy informed him Jordan’s window was down.
      Then Strolla said he couldn’t tell if Dunn said thank you because he looked away. This guy informs him he turned the radio down so if he said thank you he WOULD hear him.

      I think this lawyer is spinning so fast even he is getting confused. He’s not proving the points he is trying to make.

      • J4TMinATL says:

        He talks so fast. When he’s asking Thompson if he looked away when turning the radio down, silliness. And Strolla is now implying Thompson’s written statement from night of shooting went missing. I think Thompson did fine. We know how jurors like to judge witnesses….

      • Boyd says:

        did Strolla ever question the kid about the invisible shotgun? I heard part of the cross but not all.

        • J4TMinATL says:

          I don’t think he did. I could be incorrect but I don’t recall Strolla mentioning or asking about a weapon. Strolla is setting up the possibility of a weapon and weapon drop “100 yards away” by asking if the police took Thompson and Tommie back to where they drove and stopped the car. He said no. Strolla asked why did they drive back to the station. To get help where there were people. Strolla harping on when Tommie and Thompson called 911 and Thompson established that Tommie (driver) did not open the back drivers side door at any point at least after returning to gas station. I’m confused on what occurred after they moved truck.

          The child lock issue was cleared up. The windows could be childlocked from drivers seat and from testimony Tommie controlled that. Tommie rolled down Jordan’s window before arriving to the station.

          It hasn’t been established today whether Jordan tried to open back door only that he was small enough that if he had opened door he could get out vs Thompson not being able to if he wanted because he is bigger and wouldn’t fit (cars were parked that close to each other).

          • Boyd says:

            yeah I heard all that rubbish. who cares how fast someone called 9-1-1, it’s called shock.

            I’m curious to see how he gets the gun in there. he knows there was no gun, no need to ask the kid.

            did they ask if it’s the type of car that chimes when a door is opened? Strolla has to go a long way from a car door opening to shooting 8-9 times

            One thing I don’t get is why is Dunn not being charged for shooting at the other boys? Strolla seems to be saying since the other kids ducked everything is cool.

          • fauxmccoy says:

            @boyd — dunn in addition to the murder charge is also facing 3 attempted murder charge for the other occupants.

  49. Kevin Thompson

    Tommy Stornes was driving. Tevin was seated in the front passenger seat.

    They went to the Town Center to pickup girls.

    Stopped in to see Alia, Jordan’s girlfriend.

    On the way to the mall, topped at the Gate Gas Station to get some gum.

    Tommy went in to the store.

    Black sedan parked so close to the passenger side of the durango that they could not open the door and get out.

    Identifies Dunn.

    Dunn complained and said, “Turn the music down. I can’t hear myself think.”

    He turned it down.

    Jordan said, “Fuck that.”

    He turned it back up.

    Jprdan and the man exchanged words.

    He reached over and raised Jordan’s window.

    Tommy Stornes came back out of the store and got into the car,

    Just before Dunn picked up the gun below him to his right he asked are you talking to me?

    Then he started shooting.

    Tommie had already started the engine. He backed out and drove out to the left. Did a quick right and drove a short distance into the parking lot. Stopped.

    Tommy called out names Jordan didn’t respond he was gasping for air as Leeland Bruson cradled him.

    He got out and checked the outside of the durango. Saw 3 bullet holes in Jordan’s door.

    Saw Dunn leave the gas station and make a right N?B on Southside Blvd.

    They were afraid he would shoot again so he got back in the durango and Tommy backed it up into the gas station and parked it.

    He called 911

  50. Boyd says:

    Never in my life have I seen an argument over loud music from a car. I can tell you I play my music much louder than the kids, If it was me playing tunes, Dunn would have had to get out of the car and knocked on my window. My kids 22,26 always tell me to turn it down “dad, how can you listen to it that loud?”.

  51. J4TMinATL says:

    And the gum… get rid of it.

  52. J4TMinATL says:

    He needs to answer how he knows child locks were engaged…by stating that since he sat in front he would have to get out and open the back door. Guy needs to ask.

  53. Boyd says:

    Lead pipe, The kid did not duck because he was getting out of the car. Had no idea lawyers can just make up shit

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Did a 911 caller report that when the Durango left the boys got out and walked around the truck twice before coming back?

      • roderick2012 says:

        My guess is that they were in shock and were trying to determine if they were living a nightmare or not.

        Regardless Dunn was wasted and he couldn’t tell if it was a ‘gun’ or a ‘stick’.

        Fry this fool already.

        • J4TMinATL says:

          OK. That has nothing to do with what I asked.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            Furthermore, you don’t know if he was drunk.

          • roderick2012 says:

            I meant that even if what the 911 caller stated was true it doesn’t prove that there was a gun.

            They probably left the scene because some nut had just shot up their vehicle and they were looking at the damage to the SUV.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            I didn’t say it proved anything. I’m simply asking a question. It’s a yes or no. No opinions or probably’s or assumptions needed.

          • roderick2012 says:

            His girlfriend stated in her police interview that he had 4 drinks at the reception.

            That’s how I know.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            And you know how much alcohol one needs to consume to be intoxicated? Particularly, Dunn? So no you do not and cannot know.

            Again facts. Not opinions.

          • roderick2012 says:

            So you’re saying that Dunn is an alcoholic?

            My guess is that most people on the jury would believe that having four drinks is enough to get someone drunk and his reaction to the loud music in a public place pretty much supports that Dunn was drunk.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            Roderick, nothing to do with what I asked. I don’t give a crap about alcohol, only you do. I asked a question about one 911 caller not your opinion on alcohol, number of drinks, etc.

          • roderick2012 says:

            Is the 911 caller a defense witness?

            If not then that person is irrelevant.

        • Boyd says:

          Dunn is toast.

          • J4TMinATL says:

            Nah none of the people who witnessed the shooting and called 911 will take the stand @rod….for either side…lmao.

          • roderick2012 says:

            Nah none of the people who witnessed the shooting and called 911 will take the stand @rod….for either side…lmao.

            I am talking about the 911 caller who reportedly saw the young men walking around the SUV after they left the scene.

      • Boyd says:

        a normal reaction if I was shot at 8-9 times. Get out the car and compose oneself. But I guess this defense attorney will say the kids should have stayed there and gotten shot repeatedly

  54. Strolla is attempting to lay the foundation for someone having gotten rid of the ghost shotgun by going out the back way and tossing it into a dumpster.

    • roderick2012 says:

      Which is a stupid argument because if anyone in the SUV had had a gun and had threated Dunn they would have fired back and not left the scene to dumb it as if they were thinking ahead for an alibi.

      Dumb, just dumb.

  55. Lynn says:

    Strolla keeps repeating how JSO never searched that night for the gun or “lead pipe” (even though I only recall Dunn saying “stick” – I guess lead pipe sounds scarier). Why would they have had reason to search thoroughly for a hidden gun? The 911 calls were about a gunman shooting and leaving. They found a car of victims and spoke to witnesses who said the gunman drove away with the gun.

    It would have been a different crime scene search had Dunn called 911 and reported this gun/lead pipe/stick that threatened his life. But, NO, he never made that call! So why is Strolla giving JSO grief about not searching roofs and dumpsters?

  56. Mid-morning break until 10:55 am

  57. Officer Forster.

    Presently employed as a bailiff at the courthouse.

    At the time of the shooting he was employed by the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office.

    He blocked one of the entrances at 7:47 pm. (Bay Meadows)

    He was instructed to put up yellow crime scene tape in the vicinity where he blocked the entrance with his vehicle.

  58. J4TMinATL says:

    Of course the state doesn’t have its microphone on….judge offered her to wear a body microphone…declined.

    • fauxmccoy says:

      From what I know from a sound tech friend who works for ABC news, body mic for women if more difficult than for men. It generally involves being wired up from the bottom of the skirt. (His least fave task was setting up Barbara Walters with the body mic.). If I were a woman from the prosecution, I would say ‘no’ too. Also, I would not want to risk having a live mic when talking to colleagues. Just something to consider.

  59. Cross of Sgt. Shore by Strolla

    Left the scene around midnight.

    They did not block access to the shopping plaza. People could continue to shop or whatever.

    He ran the license plate and obtained a description of the vehicle.

    He sent out a BOLO (be on the lookout) and ordered officers to search a 5-10 mile radius for the car.

    He told them to check hotels.

    They didn’t find it.

  60. Sergeant Shore

    Call came in at 7:40 pm.

    Arrived 2 or 3 minutes later. 4 or 5 other cops were already there. JFRD had not yet arrived.

    Cops blocked all of the entrances to the gas stations. Then they established perimeter after JFRD departed. Later expanded the expanded

  61. 13 minutes to transport Jordan to the trauma hospital.

    Cross by Strolla:

    Covers some basics distinguishing EMT training from paramedic training.

  62. William Spicer

    Paramedic and engineer for Jax’s fire and Rescue (JFRD).

    Engineer means “driver.”

    Responded to the shooting.

    Call came in at 7:43 pm

    Jordan was supine (laying on his back).

    Checked for carotid pulse: None.

    Found a gunshot wound to the right side of the chest on the side. Intubated him. Hooked him to a ventilator but was never able to revive him.

  63. ZCBest says:

    I do like the way the questioning is going. The jury will find this very easy to follow.

  64. Cross by Strolla:

    Perfunctory questions about CPR and First Responder training.

    He arrived at the scene as the BOLO was radioed out.

    He allowed the civilian to administer CPR because the guy said he knew CPR for seven years when he was in the Navy.

    He transported the 3 boys down to the station.

    They were quiet and appeared to be in shock.

    He placed the 3 boys in separate rooms to be interviewed by homicide but did not turn on any recording equipment.

  65. J4TMinATL says:

    I can’t get the global grind link to work.

  66. J4TMinATL says:

    Morning!

  67. Holmes, checked for a pulse but could not find one.

    He and another officer and a citizen pulled him out of the car and placed him on his back on the ground.

    Attempted CPR

  68. Officer Robert Holmes

    He responded to the call with Officer Valentine regarding shots fired.

    Call received at @7::39 pm. They were finishing up their dinner.

    Took him about 5 minutes to get there.

    He did not see the red Durango when he entered. Turned out that it had already returned to the scene

    (the conference at the bencg was about the hearsay rule and the officer’s reference to the other vehicle as the “suspect” vehicle).

    Jordan Davis was leaning over to the left. The boy in the back seat on the driver’s side was craddling Jordan’s head like a baby and sobbing uncontrollably.

  69. I’m still not well. I mistakenly said the Grio was posting the live stream. Wrong.

    It’s Global Grind.

    I corrected the mistake and embedded the correct link..

    Sorry for the mistake.

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