Ariel Castro commits suicide

Wednesday, September 4, 2013

Good afternoon:

Crane and I just walked in. We’ve been busy working on her case this week. As most of you know, we are going to write a book on our experiences in Kentucky. Crane has already written Frog Gravy, a memoir about her experiences while serving her sentence. My contribution to our joint effort is a room full of cardboard boxes stuffed with papers that I produced over a six-year period. I documented everything relevant to her case, including my experiences at the law school that I believe will supply the motive for prosecuting her with false evidence. Today’s task was to go downtown to the Clerk’s Office at the courthouse and review the documents in her legal file. We should complete that task tomorrow, God willin’ and the creek don’t rise.

There are a lot of subjects available to write about todayI’m going to write about Ariel Castro’s suicide last night.

FYI: Alan Johnson and Jim Woods of the Columbus Dispatch are reporting:

Castro, 53, was found hanging in his cell at 9:20 last night at the Correctional Reception Center in Orient, Ohio. The prison medical staff performed CPR before Castro was taken to the Wexner Medical Center at Ohio State University where was pronounced dead there at 10:52 p.m.

[Franklin County Coroner Jan] Gorniak said her autopsy found marks on the body “consistent with hanging” with a prison bed sheet. She said she was not aware of any suicide note being found. A final autopsy report will not be completed for six to eight weeks, she said.

I am not prepared to accept this theory, without additional investigation.

In other news, did y’all know that George Zimmerman has discovered a cure for cancer?

As if that were not enough, Sundance and his fellow denizens at the Treehouse are investigating Angela Corey.

Love and kisses,

Fred

125 Responses to Ariel Castro commits suicide

  1. The Shadow says:

    Well, That didn’t take long.

  2. Xena says:

    Had George threatened to shoot Shellie?

    • Two sides to a story says:

      That language always bothered me from the beginning. Who else has Fogen shot or threatened to shoot? Nice job, Xena.

      By the way, Talk Left reports that Shellie says Fogen packed up and left for a month after his acquittal and didn’t tell anyone where he went.

      • Xena says:

        @Two sides. The more they talk, the more things come together.

        GZ is the type to abandon — run away from problems. He ran from his home after leaving the police station after he shot Trayvon.

        Shellie has certainly had lots to consider, such as the jailhouse phone calls and how he degraded her. There’s more to the transferring of the money too, because how was she suppose to know he was talking in code unless she knew him to do that kind of stuff previously?

        Somewhere in that brain of her’s, she had to be thinking that if he screws others and the court, that she was not immune.

        • roderick2012 says:

          But hasn’t Piglet run out on bills since he’s been married to Shellie?

          Didn’t he ‘forget’ to pay his lawyers after his $18K settlement and didn’t he refuse to pay his rent for three months?

          Now Piglet has left Shellie high and dry. I will never feel sorry for this b!tch after listening to her tell Piglet that they were going to live the good life on the blood money they collected while Trayvon lay six feet under.

          • Xena says:

            @roderick2012.

            Didn’t he ‘forget’ to pay his lawyers after his $18K settlement and didn’t he refuse to pay his rent for three months?

            Haha! GZ forgot to tell his attorney about the check, PERIOD. Had it not been for the Aames bankruptcy trustee telling the lawyer, he would still be filing quarterly status reports with the court.

            As far as ShelLIE, I’m still waiting for her to apologize to Tracy Martin for having her friend lie about him in court in effort to have him sequestered from the courtroom.

  3. kllypyn says:

    The nut house after finding nothing of substance will instead lie and make crap up just like they did to trayvon. They may not want to mess with Corey.

  4. ay2z says:

    Add an ‘s’ to the first word

  5. ay2z says:

    This ‘splains why the gulp and tears as he spoke of his wife and he used her as an excuse for keeping her safe from kids going to stores and back.

  6. ay2z says:

    No kids, that we know of, but two dogs caught in the middle. I’d vote fr stayin’ with the mama, fur sure, otherwise could get ruff with the ‘wannbe but can neverbe pack leader’ with a temper and weak presence.

  7. boyd says:

    take all his money or write a tell all book. No, take that back do both.

  8. Thrace says:

    How funny and true this tweet might be –

    Jonathan Sloan‏@MrBigFists1m
    George Zimmerman is now headed to divorce court where he’ll argue that he’s a victim of domestic abuse entitled to everything.

  9. Trained Observer says:

    SheLie’s decision to file has been the smartest thing she’s done since marrying the killer dunce. Remember back to when her lawyer Kelly Sims said she was “getting stronger” each day? Could it have been the blue plaid shirt that pushed her over the edge?

  10. Brandy says:

    According to TMZ.com, Shellie is receiving $4,700 a month from the funds they collected for legal fees. must be nice to live off that money instead of paying your lawyers! Oh that’s right, Georgie wants the tax payers to pay his legal fees! I am so disgusted with all of them! Karma is taking to long for for this Zimmerman clan.

    • ks says:

      Ha! If that’s true and you never know with TMZ, though they tend to be right about shady stuff, GZ is back to his pattern of stiffing people. In this instance, his lawyer and even more amusingly he has just killed MOM’s filing which requested compensastion from the court. In any event, whatever money is left will be long gone soon.

      • Thrace says:

        It lists 0 as monthy income but with an *, where it at the end of the document it says husband has given her $4300 since they separated – doesn’t spell out whether that is an ongoing arrangement.

  11. Sophia33 says:

    To me Shellie shows signs of being an abused wife. I was suprised that I had an inkling of sympathy for her when I saw snippets of her interview. Mind you, I didn’t see the whole interview, so don’t hang me if I am wrong, But she shows signs of being an abused wife, IMHO. This is a good thing. She perjured herself FOR HIM and he didn’t have the decency to show up to support her after she was there for him day after day? In fact, NO ONE from his family was there for her? In order to get anything, they had to use her credit to do so. Hence the reason the cell phones were in her name. What does she need Georgie Porky for? He is a loose cannon. And in the snippet that I saw, her body language alluded to being in a relationship with someone who might go off at any time.

    As much as I disliked her after the before, during and after the trial, I have to wonder how much of what was being witnessed was abused wife syndrome. I hope she writes a tell-all book that confirms what we all know-Zimmerman has a screw loose and can go off at any moment. Zimmerman is the one prone to violence. While this is something that would be nice for all of us to hear, it may be freeing and liberating for her too.

    • Trained Observer says:

      SheLie can write her tell-all, but the pre-publicity will be so exhaustive and detailed that there will be little incentive to actually buy the book. I don’t see that as her road to riches.

  12. Thrace says:

    Here’s the financial affidavit. Can not believe they owe appx 54,000 in college loans and neither have a degree.

    http://www.wftv.com/documents/2013/sep/05/pdf-family-law-financial-affidavit/

    • boyd says:

      these colleges are stealing money today. i believe it. 4 semesters of community college can cost 20k easy.

      • Deborah Moore says:

        I don’t know where you live or where you got that number. My son who attends a community college in So. Cal. pays $138 per class, plus some fees and books. Even including parking and gas, that’s no where near 20,000 dollars.
        That’s our experience.

        • Xena says:

          I attended DePaul University back in the late 70’s, and when I carried full-time credits, it ran me about $10K a year.

        • Two sides to a story says:

          My kiddo is just paying for books and small fees like parking in S.Cali at a community college because he hasn’t been able to find a job and they give him free tuition. It’s a real relief for me because I took out a big loan for my MA and I have another child at a university overseas. Talk about crushing school loan debt, and late in life too. But I don’t regret it yet – as long as I can make a monthly payment, it may not go away and the balance just gets bigger every month, but no one’s hounding me, either. Too bad the US government sees fit to treat students like crap. Other industrialized nations mostly don’t charge interest on their student loans and many have an income guideline you must surpass before you have to start paying them back.

        • boyd says:

          delaware county college, media pa. The satellite campus in chester county is over $300 a credit. that’s $4500 per semester not including books for a 15 credit semester.

      • Trained Observer says:

        Some of these ” community” specialty schools for technical razzmatazz, culinary arts, or other artistic endeavors look affordable on the surface, ,but students get sucked into private loans that are killers when they gradiuate … or even if they don’t. The debt load can’t be discharged via bankruptcy and the late fees and escalating interest can create a lifetime of crushing debt.

        Meanwhile these kids get jobs as “pastry chefs” that pay next to nothing.

        • boyd says:

          yes I know a guy that passed over going to Penn State (so he says) for a techie like web programing type degree, he took out a 25k loan for a year program, only 2 out 20 kids got a job.

    • MDH says:

      My guess is that their approximate $95,000 negative net worth combined with a cash outflow that can best be described as horrible is largely the result of idiotic moves by George. The fact that George does not tell Shelly how much is in this legal fund leads me to believe that he thinks he can slough of his debts and take the money and run. Shelly, being shrewd, sees getting half of the assets { the legal funds were received while they were still married } as a lifeboat to save her from the Titanic that is George.

      This will get very ugly.

      • Trained Observer says:

        Ugly no doubt. And amusing to watch. .Despite the flow of funds into the defense fund, somebody will get stiffed. Who will it be? O’Mara and West? SheLie? Fogen himself? AmEx or Target?

        And how is it that a 2009 Honda Accord still carries a debt of $18,928.24? And does that mean the schruck Fogen’s been speeding around in lately is paid for, or is that a lease job?

        • MDH says:

          There is another line with about a $14,000 debt on the Ridgeline. I would guess that the total debt service for the Zimmerman household must be well in excess of $1000 per month.

          And that fund probably has stipulations that it is for costs pertaining to his legal defense – past and pending.

          If he thinks his situation can be used to escape the hole he dug, then he is sorely mistaken.

    • Soulcatcher says:

      @Thrace,

      If they let those student loans default, the interest will grow like crazy and will haunt them forever. If they have co-signers on those loans or any other loans, better open the checkbook. Never, ever, ever, co-cosign for anybody, not even your family. Intentions may start out good, but for any reason they don’t keep up, the co-signer then has to pay up. They can be sued, and their credit ruined. Unless you are wealthy and can afford to pay the debt off, just say NO.

    • Trained Observer says:

      Those loans can’t be discharged through bankruptcy either. Once school is over the interest rate compounding pile-up gets wicked.

    • fauxmccoy says:

      @thrace — yes, i saw that financial info. that student loan amount is insane, considering what was acquired. (insert eye roll)

      on the bright side — that GZ legal fund might finally get a court appointed audit for the purposes of divorce settlement 🙂

  13. lady2soothe says:

    Interesting theory: something to consider based on
    the Z Family swindling, lying and cheating traits.

    dkelmstra
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    Smart idea to divorce to protect the family assets should Martin family try to sue. Its great legal strategy many have followed. That way they can transfer assets to her in divorce and he has ZERO assets and can file BK should anyone try to sue him.

    • Thrace says:

      Depends. Most wrongful deaths judgements can’t be discharged in bankruptcy. Not sure of the rules in FL. I know OJ moved their to avoid the Brown’s judgement. Don’t recall what property in FL they couldn’t touch.

      • ks says:

        I think in Fla. your primary residence is protected hence why OJ moved and dumped the money into the house. Also, iirc, his main income source left was his NFL pension which couldn’t be touched under Calif. law. Throw in that he had custody of the kids and a strange situation got stranger.

        • Trained Observer says:

          ks, yes that’s how I recall it was with OJ and his rationale for moving to South Florida. It thwarted the Goldmans who won their civil suit against him.

    • ks says:

      It’s good to keep that in mind considering the snakes we’re dealing with but, that post you excerpted reeks of desperate spin from GZ’s fans.

      What assests would that strategy supposedly protect in this case? They both were broke as he$$ before GZ killed TM and they only gained assets when the money was rolling in from the suckers. It seems they have spent a good portion of it and there are probably creditors, particularly MOM, lined up for the whatever’s left.

      More importantly, any judgement the Martin’s win would likely well exceed their assets and/or ability to pay. Also GZ filing BK wouldn’t stop the Martin family from suing him. In the end, at most it would just delay the inevitable.

      The strategy that person is talking about will only have a shot to work for, usually, people who have well established and significant assets and who trust each other and no two busted characters like GZ and Shellie.

    • Xena says:

      @lady2soothe. Whomever posted that should become informed of the “fraudulent conveyance of property” statutes.

    • Soulcatcher says:

      Also, unless the laws have changed recently, student loans cannot be included in BK. All revolving charge accounts can be included in BK. If the have purchased anything on installments, the creditor will show up in court. They will have the option of paying for it, or it will be repo’d. If they can’t make the payments on those cars, bye, bye.

      In a Chapter 7 case, the most common types of debts that can’t be discharged are:

      •Taxes and tax liens
      •Student loans
      •Alimony and child support (domestic support obligations)
      •Debts obtained through fraud, false pretenses or false representation
      •Debts you failed to schedule in time to allow creditors to file proofs of claim (unscheduled debts)
      •Debts for fraud while you were acting in a fiduciary capacity, or for embezzlement or larceny
      •Debts for willful and malicious injury
      •Debts for fines or penalties to governmental units
      •Debts for judgments in wrongful death or personal injury lawsuits resulting from motor vehicle, vessel or aircraft accidents while you were intoxicated
      •Condominium or cooperative association fees or assessments

    • cielo62 says:

      Lady2soothe- except for the insurance thing and custody of the dogs, I’d be willing to believe in another scam. That insurance thing complicates my picture of the veracity of the filing.

      Sent from my iPad

  14. ks says:

    Just as a lot of us suspected, the plea deal and interview was the beginning of Shellie’s exit strategy. Maybe him not showing up in court to support her was the final straw for her and allowed her lawyer to clear up the ‘GZ smoke”. I doubt that I will ever “like” her but, that’s not important. Good for her.

    It’s very interesting how fast things are falling apart for GZ and crew. First the juror interviews showed that the verdict was questionable, then GZ started wandering and speeding, Taffee got outed by Mother Jones now Shellie’s leaving….and more to come.

  15. looolooo says:

    I hope Shellie spills her guts for major moolah. I also hopes that she soon shacks up with a BALAACK guy!

  16. Thrace says:

    Renee at OS says it hasn’t been filed YET.

    George Zimmerman’s wife is preparing to file for divorce, her defense lawyer confirmed, less than two months after the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer was acquitted of murder in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

    Shellie Zimmerman’s attorney Kelly Sims told the Orlando Sentinel this afternoon he was still preparing a petition but had not yet filed it. ABC News reported earlier this afternoon that the divorce paperwork had been filed.

    “After much soul searching and recent disappointments, Shellie feels compelled to officially end her six year marriage to George Michael Zimmerman,” Sims said.

  17. Thrace says:

    From Clickorlando – Robt Jr will grace everyone with a statement via twitter, lol.

    George Zimmerman’s brother, Robert, told Local 6 he will be commenting on the report on Twitter. Local 6 has also reached out to Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, but has not yet heard back.

  18. Thrace says:

    Shellie filed for divorce.

    Channel 9 has learned George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, has filed for divorce.

    Shellie Zimmerman filed the divorce papers at the Seminole County Courthouse
    http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/george-zimmermans-wife-files-divorce-weeks-after-h/nZnrD/

    • fauxmccoy says:

      thrace says

      Channel 9 has learned George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, has filed for divorce.

      good for her! perhaps she has a chance to escape the crazy and make a better life for herself. not that i think she’s an angle, but i do think he was abusive and as such had undue influence on her own questionable decision making.

      • Thrace says:

        Yep. I didn’t think she would do that interview if she wasn’t on the level about the state of their marriage. Hope she makes good choices and turns her life around – and far away from the Zimmermans.

        Just heard on HLN that another trial I watched recently (Josh Young) where he was acquited has been arrested again. During the trial I felt the kid was up to his neck in it with his dad, so I’m not surprised. Expect the same thing will happen to GZ eventually.

        • fauxmccoy says:

          as an added bonus — if shellie files a restraining order (which i’m sure her lawyer would recommend strongly) then the state revokes his firearm privileges!

          • Thrace says:

            She or her atty sure seem interested in him carrying life insurance for her benefit. Wonder what that means. They think his days are numbered for some reason? They don’t have kids and have only been married six years – so I’m surprised to see her asking for that provision in their divorce.

          • fauxmccoy says:

            @ thrace — that was my take on the situation.

          • cielo62 says:

            Thrace- hey! Taking care of 2 dogs can get expensive! Maybe child support would be more appropriate.

            Sent from my iPad

          • Trained Observer says:

            When one other female filed restraining orders against him, he made a big deal of filing the same in retaliation.

            If SheLie says she wants a divorce because she doesn’t want to live with a murderer what’s he gonna say?

            This should be good.

            Due to the likely forthcoming road rage, Seminole County residents may want to stay off the streets. That should include B37 and the other fools.

      • Rachael says:

        That comes as a real shock to everyone I’m sure. (NOT)

  19. ladystclaire says:

    I find it very strange, that every time he is pulled for speeding or anything else he is doing, there is “ALWAYS” a camera crew on hand to snap his picture. do LE make it a habit of photographing those who they stop for speeding or, is it that just because it’s him that photos are being taken? IMO there is something fishy going on here and, this is being done in order to keep him in the news.

    FYI FOGEN, you are not news worthy and, you are definitely “NO” celebrity! the only news I want to hear about your ass is, that the DOJ will be charging you with a hate crime against Trayvon. other than that, you can go to hell.

  20. Two sides to a story says:

    I think the Kel-tek picture just makes him look a little smaller because of the angle it was taken at and because of the way it’s cropped. He looked about the same in it as he does in the new traffic stop.

    • Xena says:

      @Two story. The Kel-Tec photo is photoshopped. GZ’s face-shot in that photo was taken from an earlier photo before he killed Trayvon. His head is too big for the body and is a different color from the hands.

  21. racerrodig says:

    As far as the ticket…..look how fat he is in the video. 3 weeks ago he was at the pre – trial weight, around 200. I’m betting he’s not losing and gaining weight at the snap of a finger, but the Kel – Tek visit was last year before, or around the time he was charged.

    Castro……he’s rotting in hell…..bye, bye and good riddance.

    Fogen is a cancer, he’s proved that beyond a reasonable doubt, so the fact he still walks among us, well….we know the rest.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      With any luck, Fogen will either wake up and go through a transformation, or if he continues to be a cancer, and that appears to be more likely at the moment, hopefully he’ll rapidly metastasize beyond control and collapse. Boom.

    • Xena says:

      @racerrodig. The photo is photoshopped. That is GZ’s old face put on someone else’s body.

  22. Tzar says:

    boy…he could have spared us the trial

  23. MDH says:

    What I find interesting is how, whenever I take race out of the GZ case, his supporters are the ones { are they not the people who say we are post racial?} who bring it up.

    For example, in an argument, I made the statement: “what kind of idiot calls 9-11 on a guy walking on a sidewalk at 7PM wearing a dark grey hoodie, tan slacks and white shoes because that is evidence that the guy is up to no good?”.

    The reply was GZ was protecting “his turf”.

    That is racist as hell.

    Since when are black people restricted to “their turf” and white people to “theirs”?

    The person in question became confused when I pointed out that 20% of the people living in that gated community were black.

    The whole side issue avoided point.

    Nuts with guns are dangerous.

  24. MDH says:

    Three points on his driving record and a $254 bill help to bolster George’s image as an immature, irresponsible deadbeat.

    Just shows how great parenting by the Zimmerman’s creates productive members of our society, unlike “those people”.

    My massive sarcasm for the day fueled by lack of good coffee.

    One a more serious note, I fear that George is on a path to a road rage incident wherein B37’s {he had good intentions} reasoning to let this guy back out into society with the right to have a gun may bear bitter fruit.

    Let’s not forget that this guy followed someone who he thought threw something out of a car at him.

    And then there was the following of another car that did not buckle their child into his seat in a “George approved” manner.

    • dee truth says:

      And now that he has so much free time (I assume, since no one has reported he has a job), he’ll be out and about (while scared?) being a total busy-body loose cannon.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      I think I better go get my tea before I say nasty things about the Fogen, : /

  25. Soulcatcher says:

    Oh and yes, if you are cited for speeding and the officer does not appear in court, it is dropped. He probably brought his registration, and that was then dropped also.

  26. Soulcatcher says:

    Lynn, All most all insurance companies report electronically your insurance information. When the officer calls in for license info, he is told who the car is registered to and if shows current insurnace info. If there is no insurance info, they will give him a citation to appear in court. You then appear with current insurance info, and the judge dismisses it. If you don’t have insurance you get a nice hefty fine. DMV knows when your vehicle in not insured, and you cannot get tags at renewal unless you can show proof. Your license is suspended also. It’s always good to carry your information in the car, but your insurance card does not prove you are insured. It shows your policy term 6 months or a year, but not weather it is paid. Many preople pay monthly. The reason it is reported electronically to DMV now, is many people get insurance to get their tags, and then drop it, and now DMV has a way to track people who do that. Insurance companies know who hasn’t carried continous coverage, and you will pay a higher rate.

  27. Lynn says:

    We may not know if GZ had a gun in that glovebox, but we do know what wasn’t in there…registration and insurance papers!
    Why didn’t they cite GZ for not having them?
    On the raw video traffic stop he mumbles that he “might” have them in his glovebox…mumbles again about whether he should look for them…looks for all of 1/2 second, then says ‘no’ when the officer asks if he has them.
    Seminole County needs to explain why they ignored the registration issue. Was it because GZ is special?
    He was cited for speeding and no registration in Orange County in 2006 and of course he fought it and went to court and POOF, magically the Officer failed to show up for court and it was all dropped.
    He never learns. How could you not have your papers with you after getting pulled over so recently?
    The icing on the idiotcake is that he was pulled over right at the intersection of the Sheriff’s Dept. HaHaHa Who speeds near a police station???

    On something unrelated…could anyone with knowledge of reading court dockets explain what all the new entries are on GZ’s case since his acquittal?
    http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CriminalDocket/case_detail.jsp?CaseNo=592012CF001083A

  28. fauxmccoy says:

    follow

  29. colin black says:

    Franklin County coreners office must have a huge death rate an huge backlog of autopsy reports to write if its going to take untill eary November before she gits round to writing his cause of death.

    Didnt the fact he was found hanging give her a huge clue as to cause of death?

    • Malisha says:

      There was a baby (Prince McLeod) in Virginia who died two hours after the first unsupervised visit (with the father, already a “person of interest” in two suspicious deaths) ordered by the court. He died of injuries to his head. Now, nearly two years later there is still no autopsy report.

      Hmmmm….

  30. colin black says:

    Didn’t know he had cured cancer but do know he got done for speeding 60 in a 45 speed restricyed road in lake mary ? An this time it was reported he did get ticketed but no gun in the vech ic kill.

    How they knew unless they earched the vechicle I don’t know.

    Unless he told them he didn’t have one its not as if he is known to lie.

    • Malisha says:

      Now there are “Fogen sightings” like there used to be “Monica [Lewinsky] sightings.” How idiotic! At least Monica was pretty!

  31. Xena says:

    I can’t stop laughing at “George Zimmerman Cures Cancer.” That is priceless!

  32. cielo62 says:

    Suicide sounds fishy, but really, what’s to gain from killing him? He was in solitary, protective custody. Unless a jailer did it, there really aren’t any other suspects or motive.

    • Trained Observer says:

      Must have been a mighty thin, threadbare sheet to tear into working order with such dispatch.

    • colin black says:

      You don’t need a rope to kill yourself a knekerchef will suffice any thing long enough to fit round your neck an to tie a slip knot will do.
      Once you tighten an restrict blood flow through cartaroid arterrry in your neck .
      You lapse into unconciouness quickly and if alone death occours in minutes.
      Many men die from autoeroticasphtctiation by mistake this way not realising how quickly they pass out when depriveing the brain of oxegen.

      It is also an efficient an quick way to commit suiside in jail without traumatiseing any cellmates .
      And stops one from being discovered an thwarted by being cut down.You simply go under the covers with your kerchief an never comer out alive.

    • Rachael says:

      Gain? Well, it is what happens when you are hated in prison. No reason a guard wouldn’t have been angry enough to do it and everyone else angry enough not to be looking. It isn’t unheard of. There are lots of people who “commit suicide” in prison but nothing to gain for it. It’s just that some people don’t want to share the air they breathe with someone like that. No “motive” necessary.

    • bettykath says:

      A man in a nearby county murdered 2 high school girls, ran their bodies through a wood chipper and scattered their remains in a rural area 2 counties away. He committed suicide in jail. No investigation was done to find out if he had some help in the suicide.

  33. Two sides to a story says:

    Kinda makes ya wonder at the Castro affair, since jails seem to have CCTV cameras pointed every which way.

    Fogen got a speeding ticket in Lake Mary and there’s a video of that stop on Orlando news sites.

    Best wishes for your literary endeavors – it will help many when your books are published.

    • Those cctv cameras are the cat’s pajamas, except when they aren’t.

    • lurker says:

      I think the issue for Castro is whether he was adequately screened for suicide watch. I don’t feel much for the guy. But if we don’t protect the rights of even the scum we all suffer.

      • ladystclaire says:

        We all know of a criminal’s criminal, who got may more protection of his rights than his victim “NEVER” got. This POS is making sure his name stays in the news as if he is somebody.

        All of his fear has disappeared so, that tells me that he never had “ANY” threats made against his “MISERABLE” life. they really played their racist benefactors for the fools they are. frankly I’m kind of surprised, that one of them haven’t done something to him, for scamming them out of their money, with all of his lies and deceit of receiving threats on his damn life.

        • Xena says:

          @ladystclaire. I think of it this way — the only people who can issue threats to GZ are those he has trusted to provide them with his address, and/or email, and/or phone number. It is my impression that those making threats on the internet are actually those alleging to support them, who do so in effort to make those not supporting him look bad.

  34. Trained Observer says:

    All the best on the courthouse doc search … and let’s hope none of the paperwork disappears.

    On Castro: the ACLU is calling for a sweeping investigation, although I doubt many are weeping over this morning’s news.

    On Fogen:

    SheLie: “How was your day, cutie?”
    Fogen: “Picked up a dang ticket … gonna call O’Mara.”
    MOM’S Office: “This line is busy, busy, busy and won’t be unbusy for a long, long time.”

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