28 Responses to Observations on Sexuality In Women’s Prison

  1. MDH says:

    There is more “man” in one of Antoinette’s fingernails than the entire Zimmerman family.

  2. Soulcatcher says:

    Two Sides,

    Thanks for that link. After reading info on past cases, I decided to dive alittle further into things of interest. Holly crap, what a treasure trove of info I found that i never knew existed there. I was stuck like chuck for at least 6 hours. I had to read 1 item to my husband and he sat and shook his head. For 12 years I have never found any info like that, and you no my nosey ass tried every name and phrase I could think of.

    I then said I believe I am done, because if I’m being looked at now, I expect a knock at the door in the morning. LOL. I’ve plotted my escape route just in case, so be on the look out partner if you see a OG (old grandma) driving like hell. Brunch is on me.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Yeah, wow, Soulcatcher, there’s some interesting stuff there. I couldn’t let myself go the way I wanted to because I have too much work to finish right now.

      We little old grandmas can still drive like hell – and give ’em hell too. In fact, I’m beginning to think we boomers might be the only ones with any spine left ! I hope not!

  3. acemayo says:

    Antoinette Tuff is a genuine American hero
    Let set up an a fund for her
    When woman on a bus got bully we set an fund for her
    GZ ask for funds because he man of God doing God work
    That woman put her life on line to save others
    That cannot save themselves

  4. Two sides to a story says:

    I have an off-topic question for you, Professor. I’m browsing the DOJ website and noticed the announcements that DOJ makes when they decide either to indict someone with a civils right violation or to not pursue a civils rights case after a killing. http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/

    I suppose it varies greatly from case to case how long it takes to render a decision. I wonder how much longer it might take for DOJ to announce that they’ll either indict or close the Fogen / Sanford PD investigation.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      *civil rights* x2 !!

    • Difficult to say. I can’t imagine that they have not completed their investigation. They may be waiting for Shellie’s case to be resolved because she is a possible witness. She loses her 5th Amendment right to remain silent after her case is over.

      Unfortunately, I think a political decision will or has been made not to prosecute GZ and the DOJ is waiting to announce its decision until tempers have cooled.

      I no longer have any faith in the DOJ.

      • Two sides to a story says:

        :[ Mostly I’ve grown cynical about the justice system, but there’s this little part of me that has a glimmer of hope that DOJ gets off the political bandwagon and will kick some booty because Fogen did indeed violate Trayvon’s civil rights, especially after looking at other cases in which the DOJ made some reversals.

        I don’t see tempers cooling any time soon in this case.

  5. ay2z says:

    C-S, thanks. Real life explained, no Hollywood scripts.

    Malisha, go girl!! All the best! Bring back some memories for us!

    How cool is this. Pass the Gravy from Keep the Groove Going’. Plas Johnson and Red Holloway.

  6. Soulcatcher says:

    CS, I too am enjoying this series. My step-son from my first marriage, once released from prison, announced he was now gay. The guy whom he met in prison did maintain a relationship after their exit for a couple of months.

  7. Soulcatcher says:

    From California,

    Malisha, thanks for being there, wish I could be!!!

  8. Two sides to a story says:

    Apparently his legal team isn’t too thrilled

    According to TMZ, the former neighborhood crime watchman visited Kel-Tec firearms, the company that manufactured the semi-automatic handgun Zimmerman used in the fatal confrontation with Trayvon Martin.

    “We certainly would not have advised him to go to the factory that made the gun that he used to shoot Trayvon Martin through the heart,” Shawn Vincent, a spokesman for attorney Mark O’Mara, told Yahoo News. “That was not part of our public relations plan.”

    Zimmerman’s brother, Robert, confirmed the factory tour to CNN.

    “From that perspective, we are George’s legal representation, but I don’t think he takes our advice on how he lives his life or what factories he decides to tour,” Vincent told Yahoo News. “We represented him in court. We got the verdict that we believe is just, and the rest of George’s life is up to George.”

    But Vincent acknowledged that the timing of the factory tour was not well planned, especially since Zimmerman has become a lightning rod in the debate on gun and self defense rights.

    “If you’re a public figure and you represent people’s opinion on those issues, then what you do in context is important for sure,” Vincent said.

    Whole story here… http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-george-zimmerman-should-not-be-visiting-gun-factories-174609071.html

    • Malisha says:

      It hit me, and this, with another apology for OT. This country’s problem is that it was founded upon the legal obstruction to the right of self-defense. Blacks, Indians, Slaves or Freedmen, wives, women, children, and the politically disfavored, etc. have been prevented systematically from ever defending themselves against bullies, exploiters, abusers and murderers. Just SO was Trayvon Martin not permitted to stand his ground against an armed assailant. Just so have we built this country since 1492, when the clever led the dregs of Europe to the colonies.

  9. Malisha says:

    Zimmerman is a murderer fully enabled first by the SPD and HOA and then enabled by the whole FDLE and soon to be blessed/enabled by the DOJ. The only way to stop him is to stop him but nobody with authority in this country has the balls to do it.

    He doesn’t care about Shellie. He can dump her now and go get somebody like Zueza back, or somebody like Rene Stutzman or Jeralyn Merritt. Onward and downward, believe it or not.

    Somebody with strength, cunning and a bad diagnosis should become governmental and not with the “gris gris” either.

  10. Lynn says:

    This is OT too, but omg.

    GZ looks to have dropped a hundred pounds and is back to his beard and shaven head days. The weight, clean shaven Junior haircut look was just a pity ploy for the court.

    Here’s the shotgun below. I don’t think you can conceal carry that or shoot deer with it! Looks like Keltec is giving him the hookup and tours of the factory.

    Driving all over the country going no where in particular, probably spending hours with his buddies in the fight gym, and spending his free time touring Keltec. I guess no time to get a job or worry about his wife’s legal issues.


    • MDH says:

      I am in Michigan visiting relatives and attending a wedding.

      It amazes me how Zimmerman supporters took that GZ was a 207lbs wimp who could not defend himself against the “buff” 157lbs teen lie, hook, line and sinker.

      The picture of GZ shaking hands with the Keltech rep reveals a “man” with a thick build through the upper body. I have loaded and unloaded cement bags with Latin md then built like GZ. Put it this way – they could take a 157lbs person and throw them through a door.

      Buff does not mean strong.

      The jurors have allowed GZ to fulfill his hero complex.

      This guy is being enabled to harm again.

      • Yes, and in addition to being naturally strong because of his body build, he was trained in fighting at close quarters and admitted to Dr. Drew that his training saved his life (i.e., the shrimping move).

        He certainly didn’t need a gun to defend himself.

        • MDH says:

          That’s what makes me sad. Otherwise reasonable people, not seeing what is entirely obvious in that last sentence. I feel it says a lot about them.

          I even got the “well then it was a bunch of slaps rather than 20 to 30 punches to the face” argument.

          In what kind of rational society does a teen slapping a man (if that really happened) warrant an execution without trial?

          I feel a lot of white Americans need to do some soul searching, if they really do believe in justice for all regardless of race.

          GZ and Keltek happily embracing each other sends a very evil message, indeed.

          Making money on the death of a person who, by all standards of decency, was a victim should sour any decent human being. Sadly, I feel many of our fellow Americans will not. In fact, they will join it.

          Is this the kind of country worth fighting for?

          They say they want their country back.

          I say it is time I kick their ass and take names if they ever come to where I reside.

  11. Malisha says:

    Sorry for OT comment.
    I’m posting this because March is tomorrow morning.


    This is just Malisha — I set this up because somebody asked if we could gather.

    I plan to be in front of the little cafe called “Potbelly Sandwich Shop” on 23rd Street NW near G Street NW at 7:30 a.m. on Saturday, Aug. 24. I’ll hold a black sign sign with white letters saying “NO MORE COVER UP” with a red circle-slash.

    I think MCD and maybe some others want to meet too. Why don’t we post the location on the blog: Potbelly Cafe at 616 23rd street NW, Washington DC.

    You can write to:


    Put something into your “RE” line to make me recognize you as one of the leatherheads.


  12. Drew says:

    Love this series.

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