If you plant corn . . .

Thursday, August 8, 2013

Good evening my friends:

Mariah Blake at Mother Jones has this interesting story about Frank Taaffe.

Anyone here still believe that his good friend, George Zimmerman, isn’t a racist?

204 Responses to If you plant corn . . .

  1. Lonnie Starr says:

    This goes to show just how badly the case was handled, all of this was kept under wraps. I wonder how the jury would have felt if they knew that gz’s pal was so openly and terribly racist? Isn’t it: “By their friends you shall know them!”??? How could gz get so close to a person whose own family could not stand? Surely they had something in common.

  2. KateW says:

    Article: 10 Reasons Lawyers Say Florida’s Law Enforcement Threw Away George Zimmerman’s Case


    I know many of you have already stated many obvious reasons but this is an article of a growing consensus regarding the State of Florida throwing the Trayvon Martin case.

    • KateW says:

      I was often a defender of the prosecution but the more I look at it and the feeling in my gut and the many reasons given by Martin supporters, I am finding it inevitable. Although, I defended the prosecution, I did notice, often times than not that nagging silence in the courtroom when OMara and West, at the podium, would commit so many questionable acts. There were times I was screaming to object but it never came. *crickets* from the prosecution as they just sat there, quiet. They were so quiet at times it was as if they were no where in the room. The badgering of Rachel Jeantel was another terrible act that has prompted me to believe the Governor and the AG told them to throw the case. Just try the case to appease these people so we can move on is probably what Rick Scott and AG told them in so many words. This was a total miscarriage of justice and it is proof our system has failed.

      • ladystclaire says:

        What the state of Florida did in regards to this case what just plain and simple, WRONG! why would they not want to see this murderer convicted? this needs to be investigated from the state house, down to the out house which would be the jury pool. this is so so sad, knowing that this sort of shit is still being allowed in this country.

        Trayvon was a child and not a thug! his precious young life was taken by a thug and, for this to turn out the way that it did, the damn DOJ should be all over the state of Florida. Angela Corey, Bernie and, who ever else was involved in this should have some kind of charges brought against them. less we not forget how JN allowed the defense to use a animated cartoon as well as those two cardboard cut outs depicting the height of Fogen and Trayvon side by side and, Trayvon wasn’t that much taller than the son of a bitch like they depicted him to be. at the same time, she wouldn’t allow the voice experts to testify.

        This was so wrong and, something needs to be done about it. The state of Florida prosecutors were suppose to speak for this child but, they instead helped his murderer get away with his crime. NO WAY, should Trayvon’s family be concentrating so much of their time and effort on repealing SYG, they need to be seeing who they can get to investigate their states DIRTY JUSTICE SYSTEM because, there was definitely someone being protected here and, it wasn’t the MURDERING BASTARD EITHER.

        Judge Nelson was definitely a part of it, by refusing to issue a gag order against the defense. this entire thing is sickening to those of us with a heart. how could that bitch Angela Corey, pray with that family knowing that, she was putting on a FARCE in this case? she is IMO the devil himself!

        • KateW says:

          ladystclaire I feel your anger because it is the same way I feel. It was a farce to say the least. They should be investigated because what they have done was circumvent the system, as you say, to allow a killer to go free. This cannot be a democracy if we let this go on in this country.

  3. Drew says:

    Again, when the criminals are within the system, it’s the victims who are put on trial.

    On the other side, blacks are thrown in jail under false pretense – in most cases there need not even be a victim.

    Two-tiered justice system. Definitely “just us”, I’m sorry to say.

  4. aussie says:

    Developments in the Bakersfield case:

    Pay attention to the last 5 paragraphs — 9 cops bashed the guy to death, so official cause of death is a heart condition. It’s was all the fault of the media, too.

    • Thanks for the comment and the link.

      Looks to me like the cause of death should be positional asphyxiation resulting from the cops sitting on the man’s back and/or the hogtie.

      • aussie says:

        Besides, they insist he wasn’t hit on the head as it’s against the rules, but the witnesses all said he was.

        Is the family allowed to insist being present at an autopsy?

        • I believe most people would not want to be present to observe any autopsy, much less the autopsy of a family member or someone they know. Medical examiners don’t permit outside observers unless they are members of law enforcement present on official business.

          Standard procedure mandates recording everything done by photograph or video and in writing, so there is no need for observers unless they are present to learn how to do it. The step-by-step procedure to be followed also is standardized to prevent overlooking important evidence.

  5. Drew says:

    Imagine a guy with a show called WHITE VOICES is your good friend and national spokesman, yet moderate liberals across the country rush to your defense whenever race or racism is even mentioned.

    GZ must have done something right in his past life because he is truly blessed.

    Also imagine training MMA at a gym but on the teevee all the talking heads can prattle on about is how the child you shot was using MMA tactics to kill you with his bare, teenage hands.

    It’s like if, in an attempt to establish a defense, the victims of the DC sniper were accused of being gun-toting, sharpshooters who used to train in the military and might have potentially tried to shoot back.

    Or if the victims of drone bombings were accused of being potential bombers…


  6. colin black says:

    Another innocent killed by LE for art?

    Nothing will happen to his killlers


  7. Drew says:

    Well he committed two crimes (vandalism, evading arrest), and the cops had no choice. Now I’m not saying those two petty crimes deserve the death penalty per se, but those cops were just doing the best they could. It’s a tough job.

    • ladystclaire says:

      Florida, Florida, Florida is definitely not a welcoming place for those of color to live, work and worship or to raise kids. I honestly didn’t know that this state is as bigoted and racist as it is.

      People are people no matter what the color of the skin may be, we are all made in GOD’S image. also they say that, a black woman is the mother of “ALL CIVILIZATION” I know one would have a fight on their hands, if this was told to Laffy Taaffe and, his fellow racist.

  8. Malisha says:

    Fear is the new Jim Crow.

  9. acemayo says:

    One day I went to city hall to pay my taxes
    Their was guards with guns and video camera all over the first floor
    Went thru a check point
    I had to go to the fifth floor got on an elevator that have an video camera in it
    A white woman got on
    She was so concern that either I want to rape her or rob her or both
    Kept trying pull her skirt down and holding her handbag tight
    Her shirt was not showing anything above her knees
    She was making me nervous so I got on the fourth floor an
    took the stairs

  10. lady2soothe says:

    Here’s an accident {sic} waiting to happen

    .Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona announced Thursday he will start requiring his deputies to carry AR-15s at all times and expects them to use the weapons to fight crime even when they’re off duty.


    “Fight crime even when they’re off duty.” Maybe that’s where GZ was headed when the faux speed stop was filmed, possibly applying for a job as the next Super Hero of Maricopa County?

    • Tzar says:

      Maybe that’s where GZ was headed when the faux speed stop was filmed, possibly applying for a job as the next Super Hero of Maricopa County?

      I believe it

    • Woow! says:

      So many legal ramifications with his policy.

      Will the officer be acting within the scope of his employer if an incident arise out of his actions while on duty? If so, the employer can be held liable and sued for the action of its employee….

      you guys see where I’m going with that one. Yah Sheriff Joe, you just opened your department up for civil suits if anything ever happens and you know it will.

    • Girlp says:

      Arpaio would hire him

    • Joe says:

      Kind of stupid of Arpaio – since I was always under the impression that police were suppose to always carry their weapons because they were to get involved it they see a crime even off duty. I guess he never understood the concept of being a police officer.

  11. Woow! says:

    Where I grew up in Louisiana the poor whites were in the same financial situation as the blacks but thought they were so much better.

    It did not dawn on me until I was in my early twenties but a few things I noticed were:

    1. No matter how poor a black family was or how run down their home, their kids were clean, the house was clean, and they grew their own food or shared food with neighbors. If they knew a kid was hungry, everybody would feed that kid.

    2. Poor whites were filthy (not all but a big majority). Their hair was greasy, they smelled, their homes were nasty inside and out. They would not help their own family who were just as down and out let alone a neighbor.

    3. The black kids would try and play with the white kids; white kids were stuck up because of their parents.

    4. If a black kid called a white kid a racist name (honky, peckerwood, etc. their mother grandmother, aunt, uncle would beat the snot out of them (not all some black were ignorant too and their kids had no home training). If a white kid called a black kid the N word their parent would do nothing and then the black parent would curse out the white parent.

    5. I sitting in the food stamp office one day with my great aunt there was a black lady about 180 to 200 lbs. Two white ladies both looked 300+ lbs each were talking and when the black lady passed by one of the white ladies commented, I bet she never missed a meal. Now I was looking at that big lady saying to myself, “neither did you”. Goes to show food stamps were not meant for black families.

    6. Poor blacks were corralled in projects whereas poor whites could rent anywhere or live in trailer parks.

    7. Whites rich or poor who befriended blacks were called N lovers by poor whites.

    8. I used to hate when there would be lice break outs at school because you could see those things crawling in the kids hair and the school nurse would still call every black kid with a head full of jury curl activator, or hair grease into the office to check their hair knowing good and well no lice would survive in that mess. Back then we were still getting our hair pressed with a hot comb on the stove and if a lice could live through that torture, that was a bad mama jama.

    9. At the end of the school day about 30 minutes before the bell rang to go home, the teacher would send certain kids to the cafeteria. The cooks would feed those kids a tray of food and also would have packed a take home bag/box for the kids to take home because they knew that school was the only place they got a nutritious meal. They did this for both black and white kids. It was the left over food that they would have thrown out. The black kids and parents would always say thank you. The white never did, I know because my grandmother was a cook and she would tell us.

    10. My mother’s best friend was a lady named Ms. Alice. She was a very nice white lady who lived down the street. Ms. Alice worked with my mom and during the summer, my mother had my grandmother, great grandmother, and great aunt to watch me. Ms. Alice had no one other than a day care she could not afford or leave those kids at home. Ms. Alice’s two daughters and son would get dropped off at my grandmothers every morning or would spend the night. We would sleep in the same bed, get the same hug from my grandmother, eat the same food, share food, play with each other’s toys, get our hair braided by my aunts, go to church together, fight and have to go and get our own switch. Those were the days. We are all still best friends til this day.

    Other white kids would tease Camilla, Susan, and Ralph for being with the N’s. Those kids knew good food and good people.

    • bettykath says:

      thanks for the story.

    • You all have thoughtful comments says:


      I humbly appreciate it when you and others here have shared your personal experiences and family histories as well as shedding light on the conditions in your state or town.

      First person narratives are so much better and authentic than what is found in so many history books and newspapers.

      Thanks for sharing.


    • Malisha says:

      Lice NEVER inhabit black kids’ hair because they do not like to be around curly roots and they love the silky straight white kids’ hair. MY kid had lice-friendly hair and his white friends did too and his black friends did not. There were WAVES of lice at school as soon as the kids came back from vacations at the beaches (I think they multiply in sand) and boom, my kid would scratch his head and out came the vinegar and the fine-tooth comb, but none of his AA friends’ moms had to go through that mess! (I even had to put all his baseball hats in the freezer for four days.)

      • Xena says:


        Lice NEVER inhabit black kids’ hair because they do not like to be around curly roots and they love the silky straight white kids’ hair.

        I don’t know if it’s because of hair texture or because of hair products. Most Blacks, regardless of hair texture, use some type of oil sheen product.

      • colin black says:

        That may be true of natural afro hair but Ive had friends with dread locks an believe you not only fleas an lice can inhabit there locks even field mice could set up home there.

  12. colin black says:

    Tzar says:

    August 9, 2013 at 7:20 am

    Florida man charged with murder after posting picture of wife’s body on Facebook

    “My wife was punching me and I’m not going to stand anymore with the abuse so I did what I did. Hope u understand me.”
    “I’m going to prison or death sentence for killing my wife,” he added. “Love you guys. Miss you guys. Take care. Facebook people you’ll see me in the news.”

    Can you see what comes next? Are you…here…with me?

    Sure can see whats comeing next

    An Innsannnity plea Im a nut job an was possessed by a demon whom temporally took over not only me but also my face book page.

    The S . O . D Defence= some other demon.

  13. acemayo says:

    If you are an white person
    There is nothing wrong with you be proud
    Who you are
    We all the the power to do right or wrong
    what did you do today
    did you make someone happy are sad
    So far we have the whole universe

    Georgia State student forms White Student Union
    Georgia State University officials say that six students have complained after seeing fliers around campus advertising a new student club known as the White Student Union.
    Freshman Patrick Sharp says he started the club so that students of European and Euro-American descent can celebrate their shared history and culture. He said members can also discuss issues that affect white people, such as immigration and affirmative action.
    Sharp, who is from Birmingham, Ala. and enrolled at the Atlanta school this summer, said any student can join and that he would work with other clubs, such as the Black Student Alliance, on common issues.
    “If we are already minorities on campus and are soon to be minorities in this country why wouldn’t we have the right to advocate for ourselves and have a club just like every other minority?” Sharp, 18, said. “Why is it when a white person say he is proud to be white he’s shunned as a racist?”
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/01/georgia-state-student-forms-white-student-union/?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz2bU1z2ryL

  14. colin black says:

    acemayo says:

    August 8, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    This question for someone of faith
    Why hate blacks

    What does some one of faith mean?

    Spirtuall Faith comes into every one whom muses on such issues in a myriad of forms.
    Tibetian Monks have Faith an yet believe in no single deiaty rather than bhudist concepts of harmony an oneness.
    Christians Muslims have Faith in a single diety whilst people can follow wicca religion an have faith .

    Some people are nogstic or agnostic an yet have faith in human kindness the wonders of nature an the miraculous nature an concept of the Universe the macro verce an the microverce.

    Or in the multiverse an have faith in all of this wonder an beuty an yet believe no single deity is nessessery or even viable in all of eexsistance to create all of existence.

    Faith is a state of mind not a belief in any one concept of religion..

    As to why some religions have a downer on people of color that’s very simple to answer .

    Human Nature most religuos texts are at the most a few thoudand years old an the book of Mormon is only a hundred an so years old.

    Raceism an discrimination an sexism existed back then as it does today.

    Unfourtunatley homo sapiens is a race dominated by testosterone ie men run the show.

    So we are an agresive an war like speces like chimpaneases also a male dominated species

    Mbobos on the other hand are a Female dominated species Women run the show an they are a peacefull non aggressive society all about love an no war or murder.

    Wich is common amongst Chipanzease an Homo Sapiens.

    For about 16 thousand years Homo Sapiens exsisted alongside Neandrathals another species of Humans whom had art an tools an had pr exsisted Homo Sapiens By million years an lived an flourifhed.

    An then Homo Sapiens showed up an they dissapesred/

    A mystery say some palentoligists Historians ect

    No unexplained Mystery here its obvious Homo Sapiens wiped them out as we are so intolerant of people of our own species with differinf facual features or melanoma in there skin

    Imagine how our war like ancenstors would have reacted to Neathadricalls competeing for land an resourses.

    Heck we probably used them as a resourse slaves an food all in one package.

    Any way I don’t know if a person of faith can answer your question.

    But I have faith in my answer.

  15. smokeegyrl says:

    I haven’t post here for a few days… I have been so busy focusing helping with the promoting the Dream Defenders and everything else.

    I have always said that Frank Taffee was racist SOB from the very beginning. I couldn’t understand why the Prosecution didn’t put this racist on the stand. I feel he would’ve thrown killer boy aka the cowardly lyin under the bus. In matter of fact he is now part of the hate page on Facebook. Go Figure…

  16. colin black says:

    August 8, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    I am trying to figure out why this is not terrorism


    It is terrorism America is to all intents an purposes a dictatorship with police an secret services that the K G B an Gesttapo would envy not only do you teerorise your own Citizens.

    You set yourselfs up at least the neo coms do as the WORLD POLICE

    An along with willing friends Tonee IM a Christian Blair terroris the world.

    Iraq Afghanistan Iran remembet the shitstorm America kicked of when Russia whom shares a border with Afghanistan had the audacity to Invade.

    America does it wether its Veitnam Afghanistan or Iraq Panama obsure little Islands no ones hears of its called a Policeing action

    Some American Students on campus may be in Danger right let police thease suckers full blown invasion.

    America is an has been the biggest threat to world peace since Kenedy nearly started ww3 over Cuba

    Conveinantly forgetting to tell the world the Russians were responding to American Nukes placed covertly in Turkey.

    You may think your a Democracy but your not the deck is stacked against the President an the people .

    The real elite sit anonoumously behind puppet Presidents an Polititians

    Think about it say you had a realy great Guy or Woman in office like the British thought about Maggie Thatcher Or the French about Mittarand ect

    We can vote for them to run our afairs as long as we want an as long as there capabile of doing so.

    Never happen in America as any one obtaining office knows they have two terms max an then there out of there.

    That way a President can never have any real power of confidence of there convictions to act in the intrests of the people or the country.

    There always in the pocket of the power brokers whom fund an groom them.

    An there shackled the moment they take office.

    Doesn’t matter wich side there on democrat republican its all a sham.

  17. ay2z says:

    If EVER there was a time for censorship or duct tape or both, it’s the corn cracka.

    Pat Paulsen asked the question so many years ago, about the place for censorship and he couldn’t give us an answer. We sure know now, self-sensorship by the HLN ratings grubbers would be a start.

    Here’s the intellectual censorship lecture by Mr. Patrick Paulson.

  18. Mary Davis says:

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  19. Deborah Moore says:

    Good Morning, Everyone.
    I’ve never seen Frank on tv. I don’t watch the shows that folks here have said he’s on.
    Tzar said something the other day that struck me, and I can’t remember the exact words, but I agree that not giving any brain time to people like Frank is better for the universe. I really don’t see George Zimmerman getting the kind of face time on tv that some are worried about. Maybe George will get jealous of Frank’s fame and do something about it.
    Another thought that has been “rolling around in the back of my head” is that if GZ’s verdict had been Guilty, would we be even having a conversation about the SYG laws? I know that the hearings in Florida may be a sham, but it’s not going to stop there. I would like to believe this is the beginning of a movement.
    Trayvon’s death will not be in vain.

    • colin black says:

      The foggage one cant go on Nancy Grace or any M S M Shows even low life white is right type shows are off bounds.

      He is guilty of Murder no matter that a raceist agenda an raceist jury set him free.

      Just as he could not take the stand in his defence because of fear of questions he has no answer to.

      He cannot partake of the talk show circuit for the very same reason.

      He has ruined Trayvons Familys life for the needless senseless murder of the CHILD.

      But his own is ruined also not that it was in great shape b4 hand

      He has no answers is about to be hit with a massive legal civil suite with no answers.

      An any idiotic drivel he were to spew on msm or underground supremist type media would only be hammering more nails into his self imposed dammnation of a life….

      He will propaly wish an long for the solitude an peace of a prison c ell with the shitstorm that life has heading his way..

      An the sight of junio an saltwater taffe popping up an M O M in the media here an there will be tortureous to him already knowing he is forced into self imposed silence.

      As is his presious shellie the devious witch of malicious lies an miss chif maker an faker…

      Wont see her on the media trail as at the moment shes on bail waiting trial.

      But even after foggage will not allow her to be on screen .

      Shellie will have to divorce his fat libellous ass liable to be permantly

      100million dollars in DEBT .As will she as his spouce.

      If she split from the fat gitt then she would be free of IT

      An then she could COIN IT IN by yelling the truth.

      Every show from Ohprah to Nancy would be droolimg at having shellie on prime time.

      Imagine shellie going from J Springer foder to overnight fame money wealth beyond your dreams

      An all you have to do is divorve a fat sleazeball loser whom set you up an left you to take the lot

      While he sat there like a a bag of planted pot.

      Would you want to be in the constant company of a man with a loaded gun a hair trigger an temper.

      Whom knows you no all his SECRETS an LIES..

      Be like living everyday as Russian roulete

      All he has to say is I thought I say shellie going to pick up her gun.

      An she had just threatened to kill me if I didn’t get my ass of to Target for the weekly groserie shop

      I said what your deal shellie you know I can show my face down target.

      I might get murdered.

      An she had her han in her apron an said I will Fn murder your cracker ass homie if you don’t get out the door now.

      An she reached down to the table there was a pack of ciggeretes a lighter an her gun.

      I pulled my weapon out an shot her one time in the head.

      An then I called non emergency.

      Oh my god SHE S DEAD weep weep I know she was a mess the last time I saw her.

      Can I go home now got some mopping up to do.

      Think on it shellie

      An I mean actually engage your brain an think long but not to long.

  20. colin black says:

    I hear Frankie has an agent an is of to Hollywood to promote his agendas .

    Wich can be summed up in one song

  21. Malisha says:

    I can write you an algorithm for the perfect murder.

    Choose a time and place to kill a victim.

    Either (a) choose a victim you already know or (b) choose a time and place when whoever shows up will become the victim.

    If (a):

    — (i) make sure nobody else is present at the place and during the time you want to kill.

    — (ii) before that planned-out time and place, tell several people that the victim has been attacking and threatening you.

    — (iii) At that time and in that place, with nobody else present, attack that person and force him or her to defend himself/herself; if the defense doesn’t produce any injuries, self-inflict a minor injury or two.

    — (iv) Shoot the victim dead.

    — (v) Make several excited utterances to the effect that the person was trying to kill you.

    If (b):

    — (i) make sure either that nobody else is present or, if you intend to choose a member of a hated group, have some witnesses with you who hate the same group;

    — (ii) before that planned-out time and place, tell several people and perhaps even the police that someone has been lurking around trying to do you harm.

    — (iii) (iv) and (v) as above.

    IT’S REALLY COOL! (I’m not telling you whom I HATE … one never knows, do one?)

    • Malisha says:


    • Tzar says:

      Whenever possible have the proper pigment ratio with regards to your prey…I mean victim…I mean attacker, that takes advantage of the underlining white supremacist ethos of this country, it’s history and justice system.

  22. Good morning, everyone.

    Just how much do the tv stations pay for guys like Taafe to come on their shows for interviews? In the past year, he’s been on almost every major network so I reckon he’s made at least an average person’s annual salary to dress up, go on tv, and look impo’tent (pun intended).

  23. acemayo says:

    Do want all three black teen charge as grow ups
    Do want to say all black males are evil

    About the three 15 black teens that attack a 13 year old white teen
    Police say the three youths, all African-American, attacked the boy after he told officials at their dropout prevention school that one of them had tried to sell him marijuana. The unidentified boy was left with a broken arm and two black eyes
    All three were charged with aggravated battery and have since been released. Reddin is also charged with unarmed robbery.
    Gulfport Police Chief Robert Vincent told Fox News the attack does not appear to be racially motivated and was due to the younger boy reporting that one of the assailants had tried to sell him marijuana.
    I saw the video there was enough people there to stop the fight

    Critics blast Jackson, Sharpton over silence on Florida school bus beating

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/08/jackson-sharpton-stay-silent-on-school-bus-beating/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2bTqJvFX9

    • Drew says:

      You ok man

    • sparger says:

      Whats to discuss. Those boys were arrested. I never understand why conservatives always bring up a case where the criminal was arrested and charged right away and compare it to Zimmerman. Exactly what would the march be about. Cops arrest teens caught on tape. Now its time to kill whitey. Those articles are ridiculous.

    • Malisha says:

      Amazing, int? Since Sharpton is an activist, those white supremacists believe he is a “human resource” that they can use for activism. Therefore, if they think something should get attention and have someone stomping for it, they feel free to assign that to Sharpton. If he fails to join in a battle THEY want him assigned to, they feel self-righteous enough to criticize his credibility. My My My — how did they come to the conclusion that he is to do their bidding? I wonder …

      It would seem that he makes wrong choices, in choosing to back the causes HE LIKES rather than the ones THEY would have him assigned to. Huh?

      • ks says:

        Very well put!

      • crazy1946 says:

        It would seem to me if the fools that are asking why Sharpton and others did not jump in and condemn this act of violence did not take the time to read the story. Perhaps they need to read the part where the police said the attack was not racial in nature but instead was over a drug problem, ie. the three older kids attacked the younger kid for being a snitch. The older kids were arrested and charged for the crime. What more do the Frank T’s and Robert Z’s of this world want? The crime was reported, arrests were made and probably will not be equal to what a white child would receive…. What do they want, do they want to turn them loose in Frank T’s neighborhood for the Fogdoit to be judge and jury? Does he have enough hollow point bullet’s to dispense the justice that they feel is warranted?

        • Drew says:

          I know of white college kids who nearly beat another (white) kid to death over a stupid bar argument over a girl. Their punishment: expulsion.

          That’s it though. Oops.

    • colin black says:

      fucking narc what did he expect

      He cant be an angel himself being at a school for drop outs an problem children not being controlled with in the main line school system

      So he isn’t into pot an thinks he can score some brownie points by informing on other students.

      Bad to go three on one should have been one on one

      But I would gave geid him a slap meself slippery tattletell a total foggage in the makeing

  24. riisey007 says:

    Yes, most of us have came to the conclusion that Taffe and Zimmerman worked that neighborhood. Taffe was also a participant in the crime and had Zimmerman been convicted w he would spill the . There are a lot of white people who hate black, Jewish and other white people who defend us and they would not hesitate to kill us with no remorse. Just read the story of Enmity Till or the story that made the movie Jasper Texas and you will see the likes of the people we are dealing with. Limbaugh,Taffe,Hannity and others are calling for a race war can’t you hear it??!! Those of you who are white and choose to stand up for what is right will be called race traitors and you will be treated no better than black people and Jewish. Let me also not forget Asian and Hispanic along with Indian.

  25. JJ says:

    Had a great laugh this morning at a letter to the editor (Charlotte Sun)
    “Knuckleheads have been multiplying
    I have been getting this paper for some time now and I am never amazed by what some of you write. I left this county in 1975, having returned in 2010 to help care for my mother. I have seen Charlotte County from a long ways down the road. There was an overabundance of knuckleheads here in the 1970’s and it is evident you have been multiplying ever since. That is why what you say in your rants never amazes me
    You state half-truths as fact. You whip up statistics out of thin air or worse yet what the state-run media tells you. You seem to think you know exactly what our Founding Fathers were thinking when they wrote the Constitution, yet you can’t even go to Walmart without asking the other person hooked to the smartphone what to buy. The phone may be smart, but I can’t say the same about you.”

    • JJ says:

      Another laugh at an editorial:
      “Jackson apology? You first governor”
      The aggrieved governor, summoning his inner Dr Phil was mighty offended by Jackson’s ham-handed “insult” to Florida–even though we all know if the state didn’t exist, tabloid television would be airing test patterns.” …

      The following isn’t so funny.
      “One good place to start might be the governor’s insulting decision to create a sham special committee to exmine “stand your ground,” which he populated with sponsors of the 2005 law, shills for the National Rifle Association and numerous other lock-and-load gofers.
      As it turned out, Scott’s panel of bobing heads recommended a few tweaks, which the Legislature ignored.
      Adding insanity to insult, House Speaker Will Weatherford in an apparent effort to get those Dream Defender squaters out of Scott’s office announced plans to hold his own phony hearings on “stand your ground.”


      • Malisha says:

        OMG I am so sick of phony hearings.
        Most of our tax dollars are spent on phony things.
        I hate it all.
        I might not hate it as much if I could earn my money with phony stuff; I have to earn my money with real stuff and then it gets spent on phony stuff. DAMN!

      • Xena says:

        @JJ. I saw something in GZ’s trial that I’ve never seen or heard before, and that is giving defense attorneys authority to change pattern jury instructions. By Judge Nelson allowing that, she rendered the law moot.

        There would be no need to re-write SYG if Judge Nelson had not allowed O’Mara and West to legislate from the courtroom.

        • ks says:


          Yes and excluding the standard lesser included charges was troubling as well.

          • Xena says:

            @ks. If judges are going to allow attorneys to write their own jury instructions, then the judicial committee that writes them can save time doing so. What O’Mara and West did was tell the judges who wrote the pattern jury instructions to go take a hike. But then, West was so disrespectful of Judge Nelson that it shouldn’t be a surprise that he ditches pattern jury instructions and replaces them with his own.

          • Yep, and his strategy was successful because the deletion of the aggressor portion of the instruction basically transformed it into an instruction to acquit the defendant.

          • Xena says:


            Yep, and his strategy was successful because the deletion of the aggressor portion of the instruction basically transformed it into an instruction to acquit the defendant.

            After GZ’s case was assigned to Judge Nelson, there were many times in pre-trial hearings that I watched O’Mara and West attempt to circumvent Judge Lester’s orders. I did not think they would also circumvent the law by writing their own jury instructions that bear no semblance to pattern jury instructions.

  26. Girlp says:

    Frank Taffee is a bitter man, he does not have the capacity to love anyone not even himself. He hates everyone and everything, AA’s are just easier targets… He will alienate everyone in his life at some point.

    • lurker says:

      Seems to have alcohol issues. He is incapable of accepting responsibility for any of his troubles. He blames it all on others, which just gives him cause to self-medicate.

  27. Tzar says:

    Florida man charged with murder after posting picture of wife’s body on Facebook

    “My wife was punching me and I’m not going to stand anymore with the abuse so I did what I did. Hope u understand me.”
    “I’m going to prison or death sentence for killing my wife,” he added. “Love you guys. Miss you guys. Take care. Facebook people you’ll see me in the news.”

    Can you see what comes next? Are you…here…with me?

    • Tzar says:



      A Florida man purportedly confessed on Facebook to killing his wife and posted a chilling, graphic photo her of bloodied body before turning himself into authorities on Thursday.

      Derek Medina, of South Miami, posted the grisly photograph of his 26-year-old wife’s body on the floor, claiming Jennifer Alfonso had punched him and he was wasn’t going to tolerate the abuse any longer.

      “Im going to prison or death sentence for killing my wife love you guys, miss you guys takecare Facebook people you will see me in the news,” the now-deleted Facebook page read.

      Medina, a 31-year-old property management supervisor, said the couple became involved in a heated argument in a bedroom when he armed himself with a gun and pointed it at Alfonso, according to an affidavit.

      The 6-foot, 200-pound Medina said Alfonso then left the bedroom, returning later to say she intended to leave Medina, who responded by confronting her in the kitchen. At that point Alfonso began punching Medina, he said, prompting him to return upstairs to retrieve his gun to confront her again. After Alfonso grabbed a knife, Medina said he was able to disarm her and put the knife in a drawer, at which point Alfonso began punching him again. Medina then shot her several times, according to affidavit.

      Alfonso’s 10-year-old daughter, who was upstairs at the time of the killing, was unharmed.

      Medina’s post about the killing occurred at 11:11 a.m. Thursday. A subsequent post, also at 11:11 a.m. Thursday, was titled “Rip Jennifer Alfonso” and contained a gruesome photograph depicting a bloodied woman in black leotards slumped on the floor. It appeared as if Alfonso had fallen backward from a kneeling position, with her legs bent to her sides and blood on her arm and cheek. The macabre photograph was posted for more than five hours before Facebook removed the page late Thursday afternoon.

      A Facebook spokeswoman said in an email to The Associated Press that she couldn’t comment on a law enforcement investigation.

      “The content was reported to us,” the spokeswoman wrote. “We took action on the profile — removing the content and disabling the profile, and we reached out to law enforcement. We take action on all content that violates our terms, which are clearly laid out on our site.”

      Police officials have declined comment on the Facebook posts.

      Medina, in YouTube videos linked to his Facebook page, appears in a martial arts studio, where he punches and kicks a heavy bag. He also claimed on his Facebook page to have appeared in the Miami-based crime drama “Burn Notice,” although his name doesn’t appear in online credits for the show.

      Public records indicated that Medina and Alfonso first married in January 2010, divorced in February 2012 and then remarried three months later. Medina purchased the condominium unit where the couple lived in March 2012 for $107,000.

      On a personal blog identified by the Miami Herald, a user named Derek Medina touted e-books of his on subjects ranging from saving marriage through communication to “humans who are gifted and can see the supernatural spirit ghost world we live in.”

      “The author was with his wife in New York and his wife was attacked by a ghost,” he writes, describing the e-book. “She was seeing a ghost and was being taunted and messed with. She informed her husband and he told her to go to sleep and he would watch over her. Minutes later he was attacked by a demon ghost and he was sick and throwing up.”

      Photographs posted on Wednesday by Medina showed the family enjoying a meal near an unidentified marina and lounging by a swimming pool.

      Medina, who never called 911 and turned himself into authorities before confessing, has been charged with first-degree murder.

      Neighbor Phil Eby said he didn’t know the couple very well but expressed surprise at the shooting.

      “I met him a couple of times. He seemed like a pretty nice guy,” Eby said. “But I don’t remember her at all.”

      But Alfonso’s former manager at a Miami restaurant told the Miami Herald that Medina was extremely jealous and had hit Alfonso in the past.

      “She would be bruised up,” said Amada Cooper, who characterized Medina as a controlling husband who tried to force her to quit her job as a server because he didn’t want her working nights.

      After several violent episodes, another co-worker implored Alfonso to leave him.

      “He would always come back, begging her … come back,” said Cathy LaBella. “She would say he was going to change. She was in love with him.”

      • crazy1946 says:

        Is it something they are putting in the drinking water in the Banana Republic of Florida? Or is it that all the crazy people from the rest of the USA have moved there?

      • bettykath says:

        Reminds me of my neighbor. A very controlling self-centered man. His wife wanted a separation so he beat her up, nearly strangling her to death. She decided on a divorce. Cause of death was strangulation but she was beaten so badly that her family couldn’t recognize her. He denied doing it but is now serving 25 to life in prison. He still denies it.

        • bettykath says:

          I was out of town when the murder took place and then again while the trial was going on. In reviewing the news articles about this case I found the judge’s ruling on the disposition of the woman’s body to be interesting. Her mother petitioned to have the body released to her. This was after the murder but before the husband was charged and before he was in court to answer for his previous assault on his wife. I knew that there controversy and the outcome, but not the details of why the judge ruled for her mother rather than her spouse.

          The decision laid out the law – written instructions, spouse, an of-age child, a parent, etc. There was a hearing where it was determined that the 12 year old “will” was insufficient for probate and that it seemed that most of it was written by the husband. Although technically still married, it was apparent that the marriage was, for all practical purposes over – he was still facing charges for nearly strangling her, she had an order of protection against him, she told family and friends that she was getting a divorce, that she “hated” him and never wanted to see him again, that she was afraid of him, that all things considered. It was unlikely that she wanted her cremated remains to be scattered on the property where her estranged husband would be living. Her son was only 17 (he was also abusive toward her). She was on good terms with her family, including her mother. Mom got her remains and removed her to another state for burial in the family plot.

      • Trained Observer says:

        Welcome to South Florida, land of face-eaters and murdering Facebookers.

  28. crazy1946 says:

    Golden Rule, Try doing a Google search on Frank Taafee, I just did and the article is the second on the list…. Because it is an article not about the Fogdoit, but only related to him is why it is probably not showing up on your search….

    • crazy1946 says:

      Golden Rule, just did a google search on the Fogdoit, the article is now in the 8th position, but is still there even if it is not directly about the Fogdoit……

  29. Golden Rule says:

    Question … earlier this morning when I googled “George Zimmerman” the Mother Jones article was at the top .. now it is absent … I went through a few pages and don’t see it .. how does that happen? The link still works from this article.

  30. J4TM says:

    Hi all. I took a break from the ever evolving life of fogen. You all were in my thoughts.

    I just got done reading article about Taffe.

    One word: bastard. He can go where the sun don’t shine.

  31. ay2z says:

    And what ever happened to Joe? Whata does he think now about the company his best most wonderful man in the world, they still endearingly calling each other ‘coonasses’?

    Or is he sickened by this as well?

  32. ay2z says:

    If you plant corn….

    Does Nancy Grace come up racist?

    She facilitated this racist’s rise to ‘fame’, or notoriety. She is part and parcel.

  33. acemayo says:

    This question for someone of faith
    Why hate blacks

    Early church exegesis[edit source]
    In Syriac Christianity, early exegesis of the “curse” and the “mark”, associated the curse of Cain with black skin.[18] Some argue that this may have originated from rabbinic texts, which interpreted a passage in the Book of Genesis (“And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell” (Gen. 4:5), suggesting that Cain underwent a permanent change in skin color.
    In an Eastern Christian (Armenian) Adam-book (5th or 6th century) it is written: “And the Lord was wroth with Cain. . . He beat Cain’s face with hail, which blackened like coal, and thus he remained with a black face”.[19]
    Baptist segregation[edit source]
    The split between the Northern and Southern Baptist organizations arose over slavery and the education of slaves. At the time of the split, the Southern Baptist group used the curse of Cain as a justification for slavery. Some 19th and 20th century Baptist ministers in the Southern United States taught that there were two separate heavens; one for blacks, and one for whites.[20] Baptists have taught or practiced various forms of racial segregation well into the mid-to-late-20th century, though members of all races were accepted at worship services.[21] In 1995, the Southern Baptist Convention officially denounced racism and apologized for its past defense of slavery.[22]
    The curse of Cain was used to support a ban on ordaining blacks to most Protestant clergies until the 1960s in both the U.S. and Europe. The majority of Christian Churches in the world, the ancient churches, including the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox churches, Anglican churches, and Oriental Orthodox churches, did not recognize these interpretations and did not participate in the religious movement to support them. Certain Catholic dioceses in the Southern United States did adopt a policy of not ordaining blacks to oversee, administer the Sacraments to, or accept confessions from white parishioners. This policy was not based on a curse of Cain teaching, but was justified by the wideley-held perception that slaves should not rule over their masters. However, this was not approved of by the Pope or by any papal teaching.[23]
    Latter-day Saints[edit source]
    Main article: Black people and Mormonism
    Like many Americans of the era, Mormons of the 19th century commonly assumed that Cain’s “mark” was black skin,[24] and that Cain’s descendants were black and still under Cain’s mark. Mormonism began during the height of white Protestant acceptance of the curse of Cain doctrine in America, as well as the even more popular curse of Ham doctrine, which was even held by many abolitionists of the time.[citation needed] This belief seemed to be confirmed by a scriptural passage in the Book of Abraham which suggested that Cain’s bloodline was preserved on the ark through Egyptus, wife of Ham,[25] (an interpretation now rejected by the LDS Church).[26][27] While Joseph Smith indicated his belief in the curse of Ham theory in a parenthetical reference as early as 1831,[28] the only early reference to the curse or mark of Cain was in the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, which included the following statement:
    And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.[29]
    There is evidence that Joseph Smith did not consider the restriction between blacks and the priesthood to be relevant in modern times, since he himself (and other church leaders close to him) did ordain black men to the priesthood,[30] notably Elijah Abel and Walker Lewis.
    Priesthood ban[edit source]
    After the death of Joseph Smith, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was the largest of several organizations claiming succession from Smith’s church. Brigham Young, the second President of the Church accepted the idea that people of African ancestry were generally under the curse of Cain, and in 1852, made a statement that black people of African descent were not eligible to hold the church’s priesthood.[31] The ban on priesthood was not used as a reason for segregation of congregations, which was common in churches in the southern United States during this time period, but it affected black members differently than in other churches, because the LDS Church has a lay priesthood in which virtually all worthy male members become priests.
    While Young never made clear the reasons for the priesthood ban, several of his successors defended it as a being result of the curse of Cain, though some disagreed. For instance, In 1954, Church President David O. McKay taught: “There is not now, and there never has been a doctrine in this church that the negroes are under a divine curse. There is no doctrine in the church of any kind pertaining to the negro. ‘We believe’ that we have a scriptural precedent for withholding the priesthood from the negro. It is a practice, not a doctrine, and the practice someday will be changed. And that’s all there is to it.”[32]
    In 1978 the LDS Church prophet Spencer W. Kimball reported receiving a revelation from God allowing all worthy male members (including black Africans) of the Church to receive the priesthood.[33][34] The news was greeted with joy and relief from Mormons. Although the church had previously been criticized for its policy during the civil rights movement, the change seems to have been prompted by problems facing mixed race converts in Brazil.[35]
    There has neither been an official and explicit church repudiation of its policy nor an admission that it was a mistake. Many black church members think giving an apology would be a “detriment” to church work and a catalyst to further racial misunderstanding. African-American church member Bryan E. Powell says “There is no pleasure in old news, and this news is old.” Gladys Newkirk agrees, stating “I’ve never experienced any problems in this church. I don’t need an apology…We’re the result of an apology.”[36] Black Mormons say they are willing to look beyond the former racist teachings and cleave to the church in part because of its powerful, detailed teachings on life after death.[37]
    Pentecostal integration[edit source]
    In Pentecostalism, during the earliest years of the Pentecostal revivals, notably Azusa Street in Los Angeles, 1906-09 the mixing of the races was encouraged, and Jim Crow laws were defied. This was radical and broke new ground. It continued until 1924 when an official new Pentecostal denomination emerged, but many Pentecostal groups continued to allow mixing of the races in their services. There had been an earlier tradition of encouraging the races to mix in revival meetings going back to the Cane Ridge Revival of 1801, and Methodist preachers often continued this approach.[38]

    The “curse of Cain” and the “curse of Ham” being put on blacks
    There is a distinction between the “curse” and the “mark” of Cain. The “curse of Cain” resulted in Cain being cut off from the presence of the Lord. The Genesis and Moses accounts both attest to this. The Book of Mormon teaches this principle in general when it speaks about those who keep the commandments will prosper in the land, while those who don’t will be cut off from the presence off the Lord. This type of curse was applied to the Lamanites when they rejected the teachings of the prophets.
    The exact nature of the “mark” of Cain, on the other hand, is unknown. The scriptures don’t say specifically what it was, except that it was for Cain’s protection, so that those finding him wouldn’t slay him. Many people, both in an out of the Church, have assumed that the mark and the curse are the same thing.
    The origin of the “curse of Ham” pre-dates the establishment of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by hundreds of years. The basis used is Genesis 9:18-27:
    Although these verses clearly state that Canaan is cursed, it is not clear that the curse would be extended to his descendants. The use of Genesis 9 to associate a biblical curse with the descendants of Ham actually began in the third and fourth centuries A.D. [1] This “curse” became associated with the Canaanites. Origen, an early Christian scholar and theologian, makes reference to Ham’s “discolored posterity” and the “ignobility of the race he fathered.” [2] Likewise, Augustine and Ambrose of Milan speculated that the descendants of Ham carried a curse that was associated with a darkness of skin. This concept was shared among Jews, Muslims and Christians. The first “racial justification” for slavery appeared in the fifteenth century in Spain and Portugal. In the American colonies, the “curse of Ham” was being used in the late 1600’s to justify the practice of slavery. [3] As author Stephen R. Haynes puts it, “Noah’s curse had become a stock weapon in the arsenal of slavery’s apologists, and references to Genesis 9 appeared prominently in their publications.” [4]
    The idea that the “mark of Cain” and the “curse of Ham” was a black skin is something that was used by many Protestants as a way to morally and biblically justify slavery. This idea did not originate with Latter-day Saints, although the existence of the priesthood ban prior to 1978 tends to cause some people to assume that it was a Latter-day Saint concept.
    Dr. Benjamin M. Palmer, pastor of the First Presbyterian Church in New Orleans from 1856 until 1902, was a “moving force” in the Southern Presbyterian church during that period. Palmer believed that the South’s cause during the Civil War was supported by God. Palmer believed the Hebrew history supported the concept that God had intended for some people to be formed “apart from others” and placed in separate territories in order to “prevent admixture of races.” [5] Palmer claimed that, “[t]he descendants of Ham, on the contrary, in whom the sensual and corporeal appetites predominate, are driven like an infected race beyond the deserts of Sahara, where under a glowing sky nature harmonized with their brutal and savage disposition
    In the book of Genesis, Noah condemns Ham and his descendents to perpetual servitude: “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers” (Gn 9:25). T. David Curp notes that this episode has been used to justify racialized slavery, since “Christians and even some Muslims eventually identified Ham’s descendents as black Africans”.[5] Anthony Pagden argued that “This reading of the Book of Genesis merged easily into a medieval iconographic tradition in which devils were always depicted as black. Later pseudo-scientific theories would be built around African skull shapes, dental structure, and body postures, in an attempt to find an unassailable argument—rooted in whatever the most persuasive contemporary idiom happened to be: law, theology, genealogy, or natural science—why one part of the human race should live in perpetual indebtedness to another.”[6]
    Christians traditionally believed that Canaan had settled in Africa. The dark skin of Africans became associated with this “curse of Ham.” Thus slavery of Africans became religiously justifiable.
    “[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God…it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation…it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts.” Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America (Jefferson Davis, “Inaugural Address as Provisional President of the Confederacy,” Montgomery, AL, 1861-FEB-18, Confederate States of America, Congressional Journal, 1:64-66.)
    Racism has influenced U.S. health care in the past and continues to do so today. The most shameful chapters in American history involve the U.S. government funding studies that allowed poor black men in Alabama to succumb to syphilis or Guatemalan prison inmates, mental health patients and soldiers to be afflicted with the disease and other sexually transmitted infections. Government agencies also played a role in sterilizing black women in North Carolina, Puerto Rican women and Native American women. Today, health care organizations appear to be taking steps to reach out to minority groups, such as the Kaiser Family Foundation’s landmark survey of black women in 2011.
    Religious institutions have not been untouched by racism. A number of Christian denominations have apologized for discriminating against people of color by supporting Jim Crow and backing slavery. The United Methodist Church and the Southern Baptist Convention are some of the Christian organizations that have apologized for perpetuating racism in recent years. Today, many churches have not only apologized for alienating minority groups such as blacks but have also attempted to make their churches more diverse and appoint people of color in key roles. Despite these efforts, churches in the U.S. remain largely racially segregated.
    Everyday untold numbers of Americans are the targets of racial profiling because of their ethnic background. People of Middle Eastern and South Asian descent report being routinely profiled at the nation’s airports. Black and Latino men have been disproportionately targeted by the New York City Police Department’s stop and frisk program. Moreover, states such as Arizona have faced criticism and boycotts for passing anti-immigrant legislation that civil rights activists say has led to racial profiling of Hispanics.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Don’t even get me started on the abuse that my multiracial kids suffered at the hands of Mormon school administrators. It was like pulling hen’s teeth to get the school district and state to do anything about it. And then all they did was move the offenders to other schools.

  34. acemayo says:

    If so many want GZ dead why do we not hear of a near miss

  35. Joe says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uaUKC_bJEw Don’t forget to judge Frank as he is, not as her appeared on tv.

  36. lady2soothe says:

    Off Topic

    DeKalb County Police Enter Georgia Home, Threaten To ‘Cane’ Family (GRAPHIC VIDEO)

    A chilling video that shows police officers storming a home in Georgia and threatening to stun-gun, beat, and even “cane” the residents is gaining attention for its stark portrayal of what its creators say is police brutality.

    • J4TM says:

      That’s my home town.

    • MDH says:

      I listened to that entire video and, not once, did the police say why they were banging on the door in the first place. Instead, just a lame tome about the two lads being guilty of impeding justice.

      This Nazi shit needs to stop.

      Protect and serve has become harass and intimidate.

      • Xena says:

        @MDH. Had they not known that they were recorded, they would have arrested those two guys in the house.

        In the following video, the bicycle cop (in the yellow and black) did not know he was being recorded. He arrested the woman for resisting arrest and battery, alleging that he was placing her under arrest when she punched him in the face and wrestled him to the ground, hurting his back. This happened at a club in Maryland.

  37. Tzar says:

    I just finished the article and it occurs to me, and I say this in all sincerity, this guy is not worth a bucket of piss.

    • fauxmccoy says:

      @tzar — you said it, man.

      reminds me of the words of one of my dearest friends

      ‘that’s uglier than a bucket of assorted assholes’

      and we both know that it’s the word ‘assorted’ that somehow makes the phrase work.

    • elcymoo says:

      I listened to his lengthy interview with White Voices (well, most of it; I had to quit because of nausea) the other day, and they were complaining about Obama’s ‘forced integration of white neighborhoods’. Frank whined about people being allowed by ;investors’ to rent homes in the neighborhood without having to undergo background or credit checks. I think that’s a shame, too, because his buddy George would never have passed, and Trayvon would be alive today.

  38. Malisha says:

    On Fogen’s phone call with Taaffe a few days after the crime, he told Taaffe, “You’re my role model.”

    Obviously there was ONE thing Fogen said that was actually true!

    • Drew says:

      Forgive me for being naive, but why was this never mentioned? In trial I mean, or at least in the media.

    • Xena says:

      @Malisha. Yep! Also in discovery is an email from Dorvial to GZ reporting that Taaffe contacted her saying that all the crime is committed by Blacks.

      On his blog, Eric reports that before GZ organized NW, the HOA tried to find ways to encourage Black residents in the R@TL to move, in violation of the Fair Housing Act. They alleged that Blacks moving in reduced property value. The then HOA president resigned and was replaced just around the time that GZ organized NW.

      I wonder what those property values are like since GZ went on a hunting spree and killed Trayvon? Heard that Jeanna’s house is up for sale or rent; the house that GZ rented is still vacant, and Green also moved.

      • acemayo says:

        If the place where GZ live had all crime is committed by Blacks
        In his trail he a white speak being rod by blacks, why not have
        all the people who was rob or whatever by blacks also testly
        in court.

        • Xena says:

          @acemayo. IMO, the only reason O’Mara had the neighbor testify in court was to justify GZ’s racial profiling, in circumvention of Judge Nelson’s order that the term could not be used. Also, it was to give the jury a character reference.

          The State, in it’s effort to not waste time fighting against unsupported character assassination of Trayvon, did not challenge GZ’s character references. They should have called Witness 9, the cousin, and GZ’s former co-worker to testify.

          • Malisha says:

            They should have called each and every resident of RTL to testify.

            “He says he knew all of you. Did you know him?”
            “Have you been to his home?”
            Did you ever complain to him about crime?
            Did you ever go to HOA meetings?
            Did he come to your house to talk about NW?
            Every last one.

      • Dave says:


        The properties marked with a yellow “house” have been sold recently. They include the Manolos’ house and (I think) Brandi Green’s.

        • Trained Observer says:

          Thanks for link.

        • Xena says:

          @Dave. Thanks for the link. The Manolos’ sold their house too?

          Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Taaffe found himself surrounded with Black neighbors? But then, he might not reside there too much longer since his house is still in foreclosure.

  39. fauxmccoy says:

    if you plant corn ….

    you get a tall, grassy stock with a dildo shaped edible object on top
    yeah, i said dildo
    the word itself is too good for the likes of taaffe

    on the brighter (or whiter) side, i had now idea of the podcast ‘white voice’.

    now i know where to send all the bigots on HP who complain about where’s the ‘white voices’ section to counter the women, black and gay voices, cause they are too dumb to understand that basically every page is the ‘white voice’ section.

  40. Tzar says:

    at some point we can’t be mad at Taafee
    why be mad at Taafee
    there is a Taafee somewhere all the time, we’d have to be mad all the time.

    all we can do is get away from a Taafee and that includes not listening to what a Taafee says and certainly not helping a Taafee keep saying what he says by giving a Taafee ratings and money.
    but we must keep thinking about Taafees, because they are out there and have an agendum, that is toxic and deleterious to each and everyone of US, so therefore we must have an agendum that is toxic to Taafees.

    in any case
    Sounds like an audition to me
    Rush ought to be concerned

  41. cielo62 says:

    >^..^< Corn grows best in a corn field.

  42. Drew says:

    Do you think she *truly* believes the media was rigged in Trayvon’s favor, or she’s just posturing? To be contrarian and “bold”.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      She gets off on high profile cases and wants more.

    • ks says:

      She may have believed it at one point in the beginning since she was a key part in pushing that whole “Scheme Team” nonsense and whinging about certain media reports but once it became clear that the media was anything but rigged in TM’s favor she mostly shut up about it.

      All of her endless blather about media accuracy went away as GZ’s lawyers and surrogates and some TV personalities went on the air and told pro-GZ lies day after day. For some reason she never bothered to demand accuracy from them…..hmmmm…I’m shocked! Much like the GZ forums on TalkLeft, she embraced an a noxious and obvious double standard.

      Btw, notice how little came of that whole “Scheme Team” nonsense? I don’t think Crump was ever deposed. They played the suckers for money.

      Much like

      • Drew says:

        There’s still a faux lib named Bob Somerby (his site – if you could call it that – is Dailyhowler.com) who spews pro-GZ media bias stuff. I’m sure he’s silent on this.

        • ks says:

          What happened to the Daily Howler is a tragedy. It was the first major political blog on the internet and was a must read for awhile especially for the Bush vs Gore stuff.

          Now it’s mostly just one long repetitive tiresome rant against select liberal and establishment targets, mostly MSNBC folks and others he considers to be violating his standards. If you read his criticisms you’d be wise to check the source material as he often is guilty of the same cherry picking, hyperbole, omissions and slanting that’s he’s going on about.

          His GZ stuff is part of a meta narrative that implies that liberals pointing out anti-black racism is bad because it hurts the feelings of racist whites who then might not vote for Democrats and it confirms their stereotypes of liberals. As an aside, it’s astounding how many supposed liberals seem to believe the conservative caricatures of liberals.

          In the end, Bob Somerby stared into the abyss to long and became what he seems to hate the most.

          • Drew says:

            I agree with everything you said. Used to love the guy for his shrillness, his anti-establishment bent. But now he’s just odd and his ire seems misplaced – and believe me I do not support most MSNBC talking heads – especially considering his support for GZ.

          • Self-hatred is often projected onto others so that the one who hates can avoid assuming responsibility for healing himself.

            This condition is epidemic and unacknowledged in our society.

            Instead, it has become increasingly acceptable to express hatred for others in a loud and proud manner.

            We are devolving rather than evolving.

  43. Drew says:

    Haha I bet Jeralyn Merritt thinks this story is no big deal.

    • ks says:

      Ha! Of course not. That fact that such a blatant racist, and criminal, like FT was given so much air time puts the lie to her overwrought media bias claim.

      If she does even bother to cover it, it will probably be to blame the media for reporting it and claim they are trying to stir things up. That’s the usual diversionary tactic they tend to use.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Sad. At least the family can sue and the Feds can shake it up a little. Probably not much will come of it. Who will call the police on the police?

    • Xena says:

      It sickens me but comes as no surprise. One reason I took an interest in following the news last year in March about Trayvon Martin is because of a situation that happened in Rockford. Mark Anthony Barmore was shot in the back 3 times by police officers Oda Poole and Stan North.

      Not only was Barmore shot in the back 3 times by police, but he was killed in a church.

      Not only was Barmore shot in the back 3 times by police, and killed in a church, it was in the day care center of the church in the presence of little children and staff.

      For the rest of their lives, those young ones will remember the sounds of bullets, the smell of blood, and the death gurgle. And, they will remember that it was police who did it.

      Poole and North alleged that Barmore tried taking Poole’s gun. Witnesses say that Barmore had his hands in the air when the police fired one bullet that scraped the side of his head, causing him to fall, and thereafter, Poole and North shot him again, 3 times, in the back.

      The County Coroner tried covering things up by saying Barmore might have been shot in the chest and the wounds in his back were exit wounds. Jesse Jackson came out and examined Barmore’s body, finding no wounds in his chest whatsoever. Various people in the city went crazy with hatred that “outsiders” came to Rockford. Racial profanity was sprayed on Barmore’s mom’s house and a cross burned in her front yard.

      Two of the witnesses were afraid to testify before the grand jury because after all, Poole and North were still free and their buddies on the force still had authority and guns. City officials, neither County officials, provided them with any protection. Joe Bruscato, the State’s Attorney, arrested one witness for obstruction of justice for making a “false” call to police reporting a threat.

      A federal investigation decided that Poole and North could have avoided the situation had they not had their guns drawn when entering the day care center.

      Poole was eventually terminated. His record shows that before killing Barmore, he had killed 3 other unarmed Black men. Stan North resigned citing emotional distress.

      • Tzar says:

        I am trying to figure out why this is not terrorism

        • Xena says:

          @Tzar. Terrorism. That’s a good word.

          It’s always been my opinion that had it not been a church with predominately Black membership, those two cops would never had disrespected the staff and the premises like they did.

          Those children are going to be traumatized the rest of their lives and distrustful of the men and women who are suppose to “serve and protect.”

    • Susan says:

      Yet another very troubling set of facts and a another troublesome conclusion.

      Yes, it’s racism. But it is also more than that — it’s a growing general tolerance and acceptance for absurd and fascist intrusions and murder. I don’t think it is just toward minorities, though minorities absolutely experience it a lot more often. Can’t even stand your ground, without a weapon, in your own bathroom…?!

      • Rachael says:

        Yes, yes. As if the racism itself isn’t bad enough, now there is tolerance and even acceptance of it.

        History repeats itself they say.

        I am sickened.

  44. Drew says:

    Seriously, this really put things in even uglier perspective for me.

    It’s like if all the spokesmen supporting a high profile child porn defendant were prominent members of NAMBLA and the media never mentioned that fact.

  45. Elizabeth says:

    Good on them @mother jones throwing it all out there about
    Taaffe.If he can spout all that hatefull bile then certainly everyone should know all about him.He chose to support fogen over his own
    son. Poor kid.

    hadn’t signed this petition yet http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/gov-scott-honor-the-memory
    but have now!
    from dreamdefenders #takeoverfl

  46. Drew says:

    How utterly bizarre is it that after murdering a black teen, all of your media spokesmen are HUGE RACISTS, yet the media just LAPS IT UP, and the narrative stunningly becomes, “Let’s not make this about race” (except for when we let the defense fear-monster about black youths, of course!)

  47. Joe says:

    Yes but, why did Nancy Grace have Frank on their programs? He sure wasn’t because of his great looks – ha ha ha! That is who I blame – the people who gave him spots on their shows.

    • Drew says:

      Balance, bro.

      For every two darker-hued faces on your channel you have to have at least one Stormfronter. It’s only fair.

  48. colin black says:

    Don’t sweat it Rachel if you give an eejit like Taffe a stage he will perform.
    The more air time he gets the more out ragious he will become.

    His venom towards life an his hatred of what he sees in the mirror has to be deflected onto some one else.

    That’s how these fuck ups cope with being a loser.

    Its not his fault his son s hate him or that he has to beat up Women.

    Its not his fault his house went into forclosure until he started on the blood money media trail.

    The taffes of this world feel entitled to everything sex women money respect ect.

    But don’t actually have the tools to legitimitly earn the things they crave.

    So they whine an complain an blame every one else but them selfs.

    He is a no mark dippshit frequenting with other no mark dip shits .

    Let them play as they only confirm what uttuter eejits they are.

    Skidmarks on the underpants dirty laundry of societys dregs an missfits an unfits.

    If your a Christian type you should pity him.

    • Deborah Moore says:

      “Skidmarks on the underpants dirty laundry of societys dregs an missfits an unfits.”
      When you shine, Colin, you really shine.
      That’s awesome.

    • MedicineBear says:

      Taafe– The Skidmarks of Society’s Underpants Grand Master! (SSUGM Taafe) LOL!

      Time to wash our dirty laundry America!

    • racerrodig says:

      Bravo…..!! as always, you have a way with words.

    • lurker says:

      I’d say you have a pretty good grasp of Taaffe’s situation. I would start with alcoholism as a primary diagnosis and go from there. The man is an angry ball of denial.

      What is truly unforgivable is the amount of air time that he was given by HLN and CNN. And the fact that he was put on without some very public airing of his history and associations is the very heighth of irresponsibility.

      The man has every right to be a fool, opinionated, a hater and even a racist. The question is why any network wants to pretend he has any news value.

      • gblock says:

        I especially don’t see why they continued to put him on as a panelist in what was supposed to be a panel discussion, when he would keep talking over everyone and not let anyone else speak.

        • The people who produce the shows are not interested in informing the public with accurate and reliable information.

          Because they are only interested in promoting right wing narratives and ratings, they give us pseudo experts and racist clowns like Taaffe and RZ, Jr.

  49. Drew says:

    Wow, get a load of those comments.

    And on Mother Jones!

    The civil trial is going to bring ALL of the racists out of the woodwork, front and center, including some of my friends, unfortunately.

    Jesus Christ if people can’t understand the significance of Zim’s best friend and media spokesman (and CNN’s fave commentator!) being a seething, Stormfront-esque racist, then there is no hope.

    Anyone who says, “so what, his friend is racist” is clearly racist!

    Two main points:

    A) Zimtits knew this guy’s deal and while it didn’t necessarily lead to murder, clearly when you’re close friends with someone this racist – a guy who’s written racist pamphlets – you *know* about it, can’t plead ignorance.

    B) You also can’t plead innocence. When acquaintances of mine spew even a fraction of Taffy’s moronic junk, I either confront them and cut them off, or better yet just cut them off. The fact that GZ was good pals with this guy makes it clear that he is racist. You can’t be good pals with a guy this racist and not be into that shit, too.

    • crazy1946 says:

      You are know by the company you keep! If you lie down with dogs you will get fleas… Frank T. is the ultimate success story, right?

    • racerrodig says:

      Well said. My family, for the most part are just like Fogen and Taaffe. I can’t tolerate them at all and don’t want them around my wife & son.

      “…better yet just cut them off.” Yep…..way ahead of ya.

      • Tzar says:

        how did you escape indoctrination?

        • racerrodig says:

          Long story but the short is that when I was playing HS football, on a 2nd and inches inside our 15, our QB called an audible and I caught a pass over the short middle on the dead run and headed for the flag. About their 10 I was hauled down from behind by one of their defensive backs, a tall sprint / baseball / football / basketball / stud named Redman. His son Isaac plays for the Steelers now. 86 yards…….& I didn’t score.

          Anyway, we went down and he kind of popped right up straddling me and stuck his hand down to help me up. As I popped up he said “……damn Sam…..your fast for a white boy” which I took as a compliment. He found me after the game to talk when we were doing the obligatory “..good game…good game…..nice game…” hand shakes after the game, which we won 28 – 0. I shut him out with no catches and he was shocked by that. He asked his Athletic Dir. if he could contact me and we became friends. He was a black kid who was just a real cool guy. We double dated and were friends for years.

          This drove my dad nearly insane to be honest and my family called me some pretty bad names, not that I cared. I was not quite 16 at that time and learned a lesson in life that I will never forsake. I learned color blindness.

          To this day I have friends of all flavors and to be honest I know more white jerks than all others combined.

          Hmmmmmmmm, must be that entitlement thing.

          • Tzar says:

            life is so interesting sometimes
            thanks for sharing

            I did not grow up here
            so when I came to the states I had no idea that one was supposed to stay to their own, so I had friends of all kinds and flavors. Back then we were kids and we cared more about what video games someone could lend us than anything else.

    • MDH says:

      I have few white friends due to having to cut off people like Taffe or those who thing tolerating that shit is ok.

      The two white people I could talk about race with are one of my cousin’s and, when he was alive, my father.

      Taffe is such a joke in comparison to my father.

      Detroit Edison used to send him into some of the roughest parts of the city to check services for stolen electricity. I never once heard him say anything racial about the people he encountered. In fact, most of his stories were about the little things in life that make people smile. Getting a drink of lemonade from one of the women on a miserable hot day. Noting the wonderful music coming out of a church.

      If he were still alive, I think he would postulate that Taffe is a criminal who made up the stories about black burglars to cover his ass.

      Taffe also reminds me about that older guy played by Stacey Keach in American History X who was poisoning the minds of young kids because he was too much of a coward to back up his own bullshit.

      • fauxmccoy says:


        this reminded me of my own dear departed father. he was born in rural utah, in a rather closed society of mormons (although he was not one). he had no experience with blacks, jews or gays until he was drafted during the korean conflict, although plenty of experience with the hispanic sheepherders he worked with on his father’s ranch for whom he had an enormous amount of respect. he was open with me that at first he was uncomfortable in a new environment filled with all kinds of new people but he welcomed the opportunity.

        when he was discharged, he used the GI bill to attend university and got his CPA license. from there, he went to work with the IRS as a special agent (with gun and badge) and was sent into vegas in the late 50s-mid 60s to audit mob run casinos.

        he was always open when encountering ethnic or religious groups, always forgiving toward those who had committed petty crimes because he knew from his experience in utah that the hispanics and local native american tribe members were harassed far more often for breaking minor laws (especially utah liquor laws) than were he and his contemporaries.

        what he did hold contempt for was the real scum of this planet — white collar criminals who acquired obscene amounts of wealth at literally any cost and then tried to evade taxes.

        he was a damn good role model.

      • racerrodig says:

        Despite my dad being a good cop his hero was Bobby Shelton. That’s the mentality I had to overcome.

    • Blixa says:

      Yes! confront and convict racism! here here!

  50. crazy1946 says:

    All this story does is point out what most of us have suspected/known for quite some time.. he is a full blown racist.. I’m sure you noticed that he is now planning on making a living from his racism by using the internet to sell his likeness on T-Shirts…. Did you also note he said he had a strategy meeting with the Fogdoit just two days before the murder of Trayvon? I would hazard that several others were there for that meeting, such as Tim Smith and probably Jeremey and his bride…

    • colin black says:

      Not two days b4 theMurder two days before his arrest for murder ;

      Wich would have been almost 8 weeks after Trayvons Slaughter?

      • crazy1946 says:

        Darn, guess I’m going to have to put my glasses on, or maybe I should adjust my brain to better comprehension of the written word… It should not be too hard to adjust all three brain cells to work in unison…. Then again…

        • colin black says:

          Nah I had to read it three times to cohmprehand .

          I was thinking he had a stradegy media meeting two days b4 the Murder ocoured???

          An then it sank in two days before his arrest wich is a BS story anyway .

          Foggage was caught tottaly of guard an had no clue he was being arrested.

          Not two minutes befores an certainly not two days before.

          • crazy1946 says:

            Hmmm, There is one small problem with that story that no one has brought out. The Fogdoit was not in the area two days before his arrest, he was allegedly somewhere in Maryland hiding out… and he supposedly drove straight to Jacksonville from there, so how did he have this meeting with Frankie?

      • Joe says:

        Who would want his ugly face with those magnified coke bottle glassed eyes on their t-shirt?

    • Yorazigo says:

      Two days before being arrested, not before the murder. I read the same thing you did and when I read a second time, I noticed my mistake.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Heck, I recall when Francis left his Twitter account open to all and OM was carrying on about Fogen not being racist.

      Those folks are the people of the corn! I can only hope that the Feds are all over this like molasses on corn pone.

      • looneydoone says:

        Taaffe’s racist twitter screeds
        jr a guest on Randy Hahn’s white supremacy webcast program
        papi z’s e-book
        jr’s racist tweets
        mamacita’s use of the slur “Mandingos” in Univision interview
        Jenna Lauer is FB friend of Taaffe and follows jr on twitter

        Nah, not a racist among that group

        • pat deadder says:

          Where are fogen’s sealed phone records that omara and the court decided were too predudicial to his client..Hope DOJ has them.What is going on in the U.S.I need to go and listen to Rev. Barber and the people of N.C to get some hope again..Don’t laws in your country prevent such hate speech..

          • looneydoone says:

            pat deader,
            I expect no action, no criminal indictments being handed down by the feds in this matter. It’s my belief President Obama and are Atty Gen Holder are cowed into inaction by fear the backlash racist, rightwing ‘merica would heap on them if they dared to *make a ruckus* by bringing those complicit in allowing the murder of Trayvon Martin to account. It seems neither is willing to take the bully pulpit and speak to the public about the nation’s race issues. No, sir. They’re gonna keep their heads down and their mouths shut instead. They are, to use an appropriate Spanish word, gilipollas (one definition, emasculated..capons) willing to pass on that obligation to future administrations.

  51. colin black says:

    Frankes got your back an If your Black he will plant not corn but a knife in it.

    • crazy1946 says:

      Just be sure not to bend over when he has your back……

    • MedicineBear says:

      I was thinking the same thing colin! From the article:

      [Taafe] has teamed up with The White Voice to peddle “Taaffe’s Got Your Back!” T-shirts, which feature a photo of Taaffe snarling and brandishing his fist. (“All of the profits go to Frank,” The White Voice’s website notes.) Taaffe told Mother Jones that he’s also “looking into” the case of Michael Dunn, the Jacksonville man who is accused of fatally shooting an unarmed black 17-year-old at a gas station after arguing with the teen over loud music.

      The quote on the T-shirts sounds like the second half of a racist threat TARGETING all us non-white “others”:

      “Zimmy’s Got Your Chest . . . and Taafe’s Got Your Back!”

  52. crazy1946 says:


  53. Rachael says:

    I just do NOT comprehend any of this. Everyone knew about his racist self, Jr. made his racism known, and GZ’s own racism was no secret. Why – oh eff – I don’t even know what exactly my question is. I just don’t understand how any of this happened. I am so torn between hurt and anger I don’t know WHAT to do.

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