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		<title>By: Crane-Station</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/08/20/ruthie-gets-new-felony-charges-frog-gravy-15/#comment-12557</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing about the appeal is that the case is no longer about me. It can and will affect every future Fourth Amendment case in this state. Not much hope with the US Supreme court, but you never know. At any rate, I have a gigantic, scathing ineffective assistance of counsel claim if the higher court grants cert. They should. Longstanding authority is firmly split in my case. The whole thing is absurd.

I will place some the pregnant woman essays here at this site. Yeah. Sick stuff. Not unique either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about the appeal is that the case is no longer about me. It can and will affect every future Fourth Amendment case in this state. Not much hope with the US Supreme court, but you never know. At any rate, I have a gigantic, scathing ineffective assistance of counsel claim if the higher court grants cert. They should. Longstanding authority is firmly split in my case. The whole thing is absurd.</p>
<p>I will place some the pregnant woman essays here at this site. Yeah. Sick stuff. Not unique either.</p>
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		<title>By: princss6</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rachel,

Thank you for posting. I have a cousin currently incarcerated in a state prison. I&#039;ll have to participate in this gut-wrenching series after he is released.  It hits homes too closely right now.  I&#039;ve visited him several times but can&#039;t shake the worry and anxiety about what he deals with while incarcerated. Hopefully he will be out by the beginning of next year.  

I&#039;ll keep all that you have encountered in my thoughts and prayers and hope to be able to take in your insights next year. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rachel,</p>
<p>Thank you for posting. I have a cousin currently incarcerated in a state prison. I&#8217;ll have to participate in this gut-wrenching series after he is released.  It hits homes too closely right now.  I&#8217;ve visited him several times but can&#8217;t shake the worry and anxiety about what he deals with while incarcerated. Hopefully he will be out by the beginning of next year.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep all that you have encountered in my thoughts and prayers and hope to be able to take in your insights next year. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KA</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/08/20/ruthie-gets-new-felony-charges-frog-gravy-15/#comment-12470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did read it and the appeal...I was literally mouth gaping open at the assumptions that were made and the resulting sentence. I am so pleased you are out now and able to make a difference. 

I am truly sick at the essay on the pregnant young women. I cannot imagine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read it and the appeal&#8230;I was literally mouth gaping open at the assumptions that were made and the resulting sentence. I am so pleased you are out now and able to make a difference. </p>
<p>I am truly sick at the essay on the pregnant young women. I cannot imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Crane-Station</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/08/20/ruthie-gets-new-felony-charges-frog-gravy-15/#comment-12323</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crane-Station]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the comment, I take it you read the bizarre legal case that currently sits in the US Supreme Court. I may someday return to nursing (KY board is aware and they have told me to apply) but I am awaiting the outcome of this. At any rate, I will likely return through a 5-year monitored program, which I am more than happy to do.

For now, the writing is my path- giving the women a voice and presenting the reality of incarceration day-to-day. I harbor no resentment, and am grateful for the many things I do have.

I am not at all surprised to hear about your son, and he is very fortunate that he did not get entangled in bogus criminal charges. You must be so proud of him and his work counseling children today, what a remarkable young man, and I am sure he is proud to have you as a parent. 

Again, thank you for the read and the kind comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the comment, I take it you read the bizarre legal case that currently sits in the US Supreme Court. I may someday return to nursing (KY board is aware and they have told me to apply) but I am awaiting the outcome of this. At any rate, I will likely return through a 5-year monitored program, which I am more than happy to do.</p>
<p>For now, the writing is my path- giving the women a voice and presenting the reality of incarceration day-to-day. I harbor no resentment, and am grateful for the many things I do have.</p>
<p>I am not at all surprised to hear about your son, and he is very fortunate that he did not get entangled in bogus criminal charges. You must be so proud of him and his work counseling children today, what a remarkable young man, and I am sure he is proud to have you as a parent. </p>
<p>Again, thank you for the read and the kind comment.</p>
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		<title>By: KA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy cow, I read the pregnancy entry. I am truly ill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow, I read the pregnancy entry. I am truly ill.</p>
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		<title>By: bets</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bets]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing your experiences.  I administered GED test in two jails, once a month for each.  Both had regular classes, on a daily basis with teachers on-site all day, all week.  One had a library.  The other had a gym and religious folks who came in.  Most of those taking the test were men, some of them very young men, occasionally one or two women. 

The smaller jail had COs that showed respect, but didn&#039;t put up with nonsense.  If it were necessary to remind about a rule, it was done conversationally, but firmly.  

The larger one had some COs that were bustards.  Even inadvertent minor rule violations were treated as major big deals with shouting and humiliation.  In this jail, I tended to identify more with the inmates!  Interestingly, many of the inmates, especially the young ones, had never been convicted of relatively minor crimes.  They just didn&#039;t have bail money but they were in there long enough to qualify to take the GED test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your experiences.  I administered GED test in two jails, once a month for each.  Both had regular classes, on a daily basis with teachers on-site all day, all week.  One had a library.  The other had a gym and religious folks who came in.  Most of those taking the test were men, some of them very young men, occasionally one or two women. </p>
<p>The smaller jail had COs that showed respect, but didn&#8217;t put up with nonsense.  If it were necessary to remind about a rule, it was done conversationally, but firmly.  </p>
<p>The larger one had some COs that were bustards.  Even inadvertent minor rule violations were treated as major big deals with shouting and humiliation.  In this jail, I tended to identify more with the inmates!  Interestingly, many of the inmates, especially the young ones, had never been convicted of relatively minor crimes.  They just didn&#8217;t have bail money but they were in there long enough to qualify to take the GED test.</p>
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		<title>By: KA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read your story today. What a horrific, scary, and unfair situation. We had something not as terrible and extensive, but a situation of profiling and undue stopping from the police in a town where my son was a youth leader. He was stopped 7 times in 18 months while driving with a van filled with minority teens either to or from an event. 

On one stop, they gave him a summons for court and no ticket and no explanation of what the court date was for. We had to hire an attorney. The officer waited 2 months to put in the ticket. It ended up &quot;suspected drinking/drugs and careless driving&quot; though no test of any kind was carried out at the stop and no mention of a drugs or alcohol.  He also said my son was &quot;weaving lanes&quot; verses the &quot;short stop&quot; that the officer told my son at the scene. The attorney said we were lucky he was not in criminal court. My son was 22 at the time and did not drink. He volunteered his time leading a community youth group while in college. 

There was nothing to present except reference letters to my sons character. Fortunately the &quot;suspected impaired&quot; part was dropped and we only had to deal with the careless driving. 

It is amazing what a slighted officer will do and the power they yield. My son today is a child treatment counselor at a group home. Thankfully the other parts of the stop did not impair his upcoming career. It is awful yours did not turn out as fortunate. My only hope is this all happened for a reason of giving these women a voice and you will be redeemed and restored for the entire horrible ordeal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your story today. What a horrific, scary, and unfair situation. We had something not as terrible and extensive, but a situation of profiling and undue stopping from the police in a town where my son was a youth leader. He was stopped 7 times in 18 months while driving with a van filled with minority teens either to or from an event. </p>
<p>On one stop, they gave him a summons for court and no ticket and no explanation of what the court date was for. We had to hire an attorney. The officer waited 2 months to put in the ticket. It ended up &#8220;suspected drinking/drugs and careless driving&#8221; though no test of any kind was carried out at the stop and no mention of a drugs or alcohol.  He also said my son was &#8220;weaving lanes&#8221; verses the &#8220;short stop&#8221; that the officer told my son at the scene. The attorney said we were lucky he was not in criminal court. My son was 22 at the time and did not drink. He volunteered his time leading a community youth group while in college. </p>
<p>There was nothing to present except reference letters to my sons character. Fortunately the &#8220;suspected impaired&#8221; part was dropped and we only had to deal with the careless driving. </p>
<p>It is amazing what a slighted officer will do and the power they yield. My son today is a child treatment counselor at a group home. Thankfully the other parts of the stop did not impair his upcoming career. It is awful yours did not turn out as fortunate. My only hope is this all happened for a reason of giving these women a voice and you will be redeemed and restored for the entire horrible ordeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Crane-Station</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crane-Station]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I observed, it varies. In McCracken, only religious-focus groups were allowed in while I was there. There was one GED class each week, I believe, one &quot;Life Skills&quot; class that was a religious service, no AA, and at that time only five women were allowed very limited work in laundry. Prison offered much more, but toward the end of my stay, all Class Ds were discontinued from school and treatment and shipped back to jails. The only reason I did not get shipped was, depending on who I talked with, my sentence was longer than most class Ds or I was &#039;grandfathered&#039; in. SAP (residential substance abuse) was available to class Cs at the time, which I was not, and although I signed up for AA in prison, I was never approved to attend. I enrolled in school after working for a couple of months. 

In McCracken there was one sort of not very constructive, one-hour drug class each week, and at Ricky&#039;s World, there was a wonderful priest who was like a counselor, one AA meeting each weekation class each, and one basic adult education class each week.

It would be nice to see NGO, not religious, constructive and productive program geared toward an inmate being clean, sober and self-supporting through her own contributions upon release, but I did not see it in the jails. Prison was a lot better until the programs were cut. I do not know the status of any of the programs today, but I believe there is great need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I observed, it varies. In McCracken, only religious-focus groups were allowed in while I was there. There was one GED class each week, I believe, one &#8220;Life Skills&#8221; class that was a religious service, no AA, and at that time only five women were allowed very limited work in laundry. Prison offered much more, but toward the end of my stay, all Class Ds were discontinued from school and treatment and shipped back to jails. The only reason I did not get shipped was, depending on who I talked with, my sentence was longer than most class Ds or I was &#8216;grandfathered&#8217; in. SAP (residential substance abuse) was available to class Cs at the time, which I was not, and although I signed up for AA in prison, I was never approved to attend. I enrolled in school after working for a couple of months. </p>
<p>In McCracken there was one sort of not very constructive, one-hour drug class each week, and at Ricky&#8217;s World, there was a wonderful priest who was like a counselor, one AA meeting each weekation class each, and one basic adult education class each week.</p>
<p>It would be nice to see NGO, not religious, constructive and productive program geared toward an inmate being clean, sober and self-supporting through her own contributions upon release, but I did not see it in the jails. Prison was a lot better until the programs were cut. I do not know the status of any of the programs today, but I believe there is great need.</p>
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		<title>By: KA</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am most disappointed that there is not addiction assistance available to inmates there on drug related charges. It seems these women are released as unprepared for social integration and success as they were when they came in. 

Is there allowances for NGO to come in and provide some of the addiction counseling, literacy, and life skills needed? Is there recognized literacy programs that utilize NGOs to teach inmates reading, writing, etc?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am most disappointed that there is not addiction assistance available to inmates there on drug related charges. It seems these women are released as unprepared for social integration and success as they were when they came in. </p>
<p>Is there allowances for NGO to come in and provide some of the addiction counseling, literacy, and life skills needed? Is there recognized literacy programs that utilize NGOs to teach inmates reading, writing, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Crane-Station</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crane-Station]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, our efforts do align, and I have great respect for Dr. Crosby and her stated vision and goals. She has told me that hers is a small press and that she would be interested, but she also believes Frog Gravy has potential with a larger press. That said, I admire Dr. Crosby and have a sense of loyalty, so at this point I cannot say what will happen. I came to know her by submitting an essay to an open call for essays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, our efforts do align, and I have great respect for Dr. Crosby and her stated vision and goals. She has told me that hers is a small press and that she would be interested, but she also believes Frog Gravy has potential with a larger press. That said, I admire Dr. Crosby and have a sense of loyalty, so at this point I cannot say what will happen. I came to know her by submitting an essay to an open call for essays.</p>
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