Important to note that Hillel’s formulation of the golden rule, “Do not do unto others…” was given in response to the challenge (by a couple of Alexandrian pagans) to state the whole of Judaism while standing on one foot.

Also important to note that Hillel was the first great rabbi during Judaism’s tradition from a priestly to a rabbinic religion. The difference from an individual standpoint is that human beings must answer particular questions, rather than putting them to G_d — who had (according to the rabbis) decided not to speak directly to human beings anymore.

If I am for myself only, WHAT am I? Not “who am I?”

The three Hillel questions are formulations of the basic ethical dilemma of human existence and have been repeatedly asked by nearly every “existential” philosopher.

As you’d expect from the great existential questions, any answer to Hillel’s merely reformulates them. For instance: You are responsible for taking care of yourself. If all you do is take care of yourself you’re empty. If you put off acting too long, you’re actions and existence become meaningless.

No, I meant it in the most realistic way. There are things in this world that you are ignorant of. There are things I am ignorant of. It is the reality of our existence. So, when someone says that Martin’s body was 45′ south of the “T”, they have to be ignorant, (not mentally adept) of what the total station layout represents.

Your attempts to attack my motives or insinuate that my fervent disagreement are personal attacks is illustrative of the perception that you seek to attack the messenger and not the message.

” I figured you guys weren’t mentally adept at figuring out the information and it appears I was right.”

And justincaselawgic means that in the nicest, possible way.

“I am weary of justincaselawgic’s attempts to shut down discussion with comments that border on ridicule, his authoritarian statements, and constant repetition of the same stale points.”

As I explained and apologized in advance to the prof, my comments are going to be redundant, because I’ve not been on this form before. He has, so far, allowed a little latitude in covering topics previously covered. Your complaints that I am attempting to ridicule you or others is a bit more like the pot calling the kettle black. You see ridicule when you should see disagreement. Just because I disagree with you vehemently, does not mean that my comments rise to the level of ridicule. This appears to be an attempt to stifle dissent and nothing more. Perhaps you should attend to your own comments and seek to eliminate the ridicule within.

I am weary of justincaselawgic’s attempts to shut down discussion with comments that border on ridicule, his authoritarian statements, and constant repetition of the same stale points.

We most certainly do not know “virtually everything at this point.”

We do not have all of the discovery that the police and the prosecution have generated. We are missing lab reports and bench notes, for example.

Do not be surprised if the prosecution holds back some significant evidence and parcels it out bit by bit for maximum tactical advantage.

Also, you need to understand that the investigation is ongoing and will continue until the case is submitted to the jury after the closing arguments.

Investigations typically pickup and intensify exponentially a few weeks before trial as the prosecution team focuses on getting ready for trial.

I’ve said this before and I will say it again because you are not listening.

This is not the time to be closing down potential avenues of investigation. Pardon me for mixing my metaphors, but every rock in this landscape littered with GZ’s lies should be picked up and examined before it is tossed aside.

Am I writing in invisible text that only you can read?

I see your conclusion is the same as mine, but you just had to get a dig in there.

“I don’t think this has ever been part of Zimmerman’s version and I don’t know of any evidence that suggests this is probable.”

Truth and consistency have never been part of Zimmerman’s version.

Of course it is possible.

What you know may know or not know, is hardly the issue.

It is possible, no matter which route chosen, for Zimmerman to have seen Martin on Oregon first. I don’t think this has ever been part of Zimmerman’s version and I don’t know of any evidence that suggests this is probable.