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	<title>Comments on: Zimmerman Did Not Shoot Trayvon Martin In  Self-Defense: UPDATED</title>
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		<title>By: enochered</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-2396</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you insist on ignoring all of the EVIDENCE,  Martins grazed knuckles the witnesses whom saw him astride Zimmerman and the lacerations on Zimmerman&#039;s head and his broken nose. You have no way of knowing that Zimmerman ignored the advice to stop following Martin, if that advice was actually given. However we do know that the 911 call was &quot;doctored&quot; to suit the agenda of the controlled press.  You present yourself as a &quot;Law&quot; related Blog,  while it is quite clear that you are prepared to ignore procedure in favour of hearsay and speculation. Everybody is lying apart from the folk who have no knowledge of the event itself.Black kids on the street have little to fear from people like Zimmerman. This case is attracting attention because of its rarity. The real threat to black kids, despite Zimmerman, are other black kids. Those are the facts. These are not opinions, these are the facts. There is more black crime against whites, than there are white against black, whatever you try to propagate. There is a man lying in a coma not too far from where Martin was shot. He was hit in the had with a hammer, thirteen times by two black men. It is hard to find any reference to this in the press and when you do it does not mention the colour of the two men. Why do you think that is? .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you insist on ignoring all of the EVIDENCE,  Martins grazed knuckles the witnesses whom saw him astride Zimmerman and the lacerations on Zimmerman&#8217;s head and his broken nose. You have no way of knowing that Zimmerman ignored the advice to stop following Martin, if that advice was actually given. However we do know that the 911 call was &#8220;doctored&#8221; to suit the agenda of the controlled press.  You present yourself as a &#8220;Law&#8221; related Blog,  while it is quite clear that you are prepared to ignore procedure in favour of hearsay and speculation. Everybody is lying apart from the folk who have no knowledge of the event itself.Black kids on the street have little to fear from people like Zimmerman. This case is attracting attention because of its rarity. The real threat to black kids, despite Zimmerman, are other black kids. Those are the facts. These are not opinions, these are the facts. There is more black crime against whites, than there are white against black, whatever you try to propagate. There is a man lying in a coma not too far from where Martin was shot. He was hit in the had with a hammer, thirteen times by two black men. It is hard to find any reference to this in the press and when you do it does not mention the colour of the two men. Why do you think that is? .</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick Leatherman</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-2392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick Leatherman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I will not be making a public apology.

You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I will not be making a public apology.</p>
<p>You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.</p>
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		<title>By: stobberdobber</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-2229</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 09:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know you should be ashamed of yourself as a lawyer for placing an opinion here not based on all the evidence. He is innocent until proven guilty. Your so called facts are wrong also. Will you make a public apology about getting your &quot;facts wrong&quot; now that there is evidence of Mr. Zimmerman&#039;s injuries? Now that there is no evidence of racial profiling?  Too many to go on with. You are as bad as the main stream media putting out false and partial information with your opinions and not waiting for all the evidence to come out before making your opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know you should be ashamed of yourself as a lawyer for placing an opinion here not based on all the evidence. He is innocent until proven guilty. Your so called facts are wrong also. Will you make a public apology about getting your &#8220;facts wrong&#8221; now that there is evidence of Mr. Zimmerman&#8217;s injuries? Now that there is no evidence of racial profiling?  Too many to go on with. You are as bad as the main stream media putting out false and partial information with your opinions and not waiting for all the evidence to come out before making your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick Leatherman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick Leatherman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 02:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t agree with your facts. According to the police report, Martin was 6&#039;1&quot; and he weighed 155 lbs. Don&#039;t know if he played football, but he was as skinny as a rail, and I doubt he could have overpowered Zimmerman.
Still, I could be wrong. We&#039;ll have to wait and see.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t agree with your facts. According to the police report, Martin was 6&#8217;1&#8243; and he weighed 155 lbs. Don&#8217;t know if he played football, but he was as skinny as a rail, and I doubt he could have overpowered Zimmerman.<br />
Still, I could be wrong. We&#8217;ll have to wait and see.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: enochered</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-1745</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well masonblue, it is beginning to look more and more as if your assumptions were way off the mark. What you say looks like cold-blooded murder to you, in the light of EVIDENCE is beginning to look more and more like a stitch-up of Zimmerman. It appears he was attacked, of course we only have the word of witnesses for that,.Martin was not a child, he was 6 foot 3 inches tall and a footballer, well used to tackling big men. He also had a screwdriver in his back-pack along with items of jewellery. He would of course need his back-pack to carry his sweeties home. Zimmerman was injured and the call he made to 911 was tampered with. One has to be careful before joining a witch-hunt, it can lead to bad things. I&#039;m not too up on the &quot;good brain&quot; business but if I were you I wouldn&#039;t believe it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well masonblue, it is beginning to look more and more as if your assumptions were way off the mark. What you say looks like cold-blooded murder to you, in the light of EVIDENCE is beginning to look more and more like a stitch-up of Zimmerman. It appears he was attacked, of course we only have the word of witnesses for that,.Martin was not a child, he was 6 foot 3 inches tall and a footballer, well used to tackling big men. He also had a screwdriver in his back-pack along with items of jewellery. He would of course need his back-pack to carry his sweeties home. Zimmerman was injured and the call he made to 911 was tampered with. One has to be careful before joining a witch-hunt, it can lead to bad things. I&#8217;m not too up on the &#8220;good brain&#8221; business but if I were you I wouldn&#8217;t believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: masonblue</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-1490</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 00:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, again.</p>
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		<title>By: masonblue</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[masonblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 00:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: masonblue</title>
		<link>http://frederickleatherman.com/2012/03/30/zimmerman-did-not-shoot-trayvon-martin-in-self-defense/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[masonblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In other places, the wearing of a hood is seen as a means of hiding your identity but that as they say is another story. If Martin, was feeling aggrieved by being monitored by Zimmerman, who was engaged in some form of security work,and was keeping an eye on him, decided to teach Zimmerman a lesson, or even wanted to make a get-a-way before the police turned up can hardly be granted the right to use deadly force against Zimmerman. whom was doing no more than I might do, should I feel that my own or my neighbours premises were being cased.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wearing a hoodie is merely a clothing style. There is nothing menacing about it.

Zimmerman was armed; Martin was not armed.

Martin went to the store and was on his way home. There is no evidence that he was &quot;casing&quot; the neighborhood. He had no reason to assault Zimmerman to &quot;teach him a lesson,&quot; and he had no reason to run from the cops.

Instead, the evidence indicates Zimmerman was the aggressor and an aggressor cannot claim self-defense. For example, he would have been the aggressor, if he had attempted to detain Martin and Martin would have been entitled to use force in self-defense to prevent that detention. 

There is no evidence, however, that Zimmerman sustained any injuries, so it is unlikely that Martin attacked him.

The terrified scream in the background on the 911 call from the neighbor sounds like a kid about to be executed, not an armed adult.

Certainly looks like an intentional murder to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other places, the wearing of a hood is seen as a means of hiding your identity but that as they say is another story. If Martin, was feeling aggrieved by being monitored by Zimmerman, who was engaged in some form of security work,and was keeping an eye on him, decided to teach Zimmerman a lesson, or even wanted to make a get-a-way before the police turned up can hardly be granted the right to use deadly force against Zimmerman. whom was doing no more than I might do, should I feel that my own or my neighbours premises were being cased.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wearing a hoodie is merely a clothing style. There is nothing menacing about it.</p>
<p>Zimmerman was armed; Martin was not armed.</p>
<p>Martin went to the store and was on his way home. There is no evidence that he was &#8220;casing&#8221; the neighborhood. He had no reason to assault Zimmerman to &#8220;teach him a lesson,&#8221; and he had no reason to run from the cops.</p>
<p>Instead, the evidence indicates Zimmerman was the aggressor and an aggressor cannot claim self-defense. For example, he would have been the aggressor, if he had attempted to detain Martin and Martin would have been entitled to use force in self-defense to prevent that detention. </p>
<p>There is no evidence, however, that Zimmerman sustained any injuries, so it is unlikely that Martin attacked him.</p>
<p>The terrified scream in the background on the 911 call from the neighbor sounds like a kid about to be executed, not an armed adult.</p>
<p>Certainly looks like an intentional murder to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phoenix Woman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this, counselor.  You give good brain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, counselor.  You give good brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phoenix Woman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this, Fred. You give good brain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Fred. You give good brain.</p>
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